Most common mistake by refs

MelbRef

Just wondering what everyone else here thinks.

As I work with newer refs, it seems like the most common error is placement of the inbound after an over-and-back violation.

I don't know how many times I have seen the ball placed for inbound at the half court line after the ball is touched deep in the backcourt.

Other situations?

deecee

anytime we blow the whistle.:eek:

Mark Padgett

I don't understand the question. What's a "mistake"? 😕

bas2456

Mark Padgett wrote
I don't understand the question. What's a "mistake"? :confused:

I thought for sure you would have said OT

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Mark Padgett wrote
I don't understand the question. What's a "mistake"? :confused:

I thought I made a mistake once, but I was mistaken. 😀

MTD, Sr.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

MelbRef wrote
Just wondering what everyone else here thinks.

As I work with newer refs, it seems like the most common error is placement of the inbound after an over-and-back violation.

I don't know how many times I have seen the ball placed for inbound at the half court line after the ball is touched deep in the backcourt.

Other situations?

MelbRef:

I would tend to agree with you. Even worse is the fact that there are many veteran officials that make the same mistake. Are you from Melbourne, Florida?

MTD, Sr.

mutantducky

I've heard about those before. only happened once in 62 at a small gym in North Dakota. poor ref was never seen again.

grunewar

With many of the newer officials (and some older ones too), I'll go with not putting the ball in play at the right location after a violation or when the ball goes out of bounds.

Many would put it in play anywhere if I let them. 😉

JRutledge

I do not think there is a "common" mistake that officials make. We make a lot of different mistakes based on the official and the level. I do not see any one violation or foul that is called that everyone makes consistently.

Maybe I see a lot of officials not report to the table properly. Either they do not stop or they flip hands, but that is no different than officials that make calls that are not there or could have passed on. But I do not see this as "common" as we all are in different stages of development and ability.

Peace

Mark Padgett

OK - let's be somewhat fair here. Do you mean a mechanics mistake, a rule interp mistake or a judgment mistake?

BillyMac

After a violation, the ball is awarded to the opponents for a throwin from an out of bounds spot nearest the violation. This is especially true for a backcourt violation, where the ball may not necessarily be put in play at the division line, but, rather, is always put back in play at the spot nearest the violation.

JRutledge

BillyMac wrote
After a violation, the ball is awarded to the opponents for a throwin from an out of bounds spot nearest the violation. This is especially true for a backcourt violation, where the ball may not necessarily be put in play at the division line, but, rather, is always put back in play at the spot nearest the violation.

Funny you said that. I just worked with an official that is a veteran that put the ball in play after a backcourt violation at the division line, when the touching of the ball (that actually caused the violation) in the backcourt below the top of the 3 point line. I did not make a big deal out of it, but I knew it was wrong. I do not think I have seen someone do that in a long time.

Peace

jeffpea

the most common mistake that officials make (at any level or at any experience level) is simply....not blowing the whistle enough.

99.99999% of problems in a game come from not blowing the whistle. the "default" that most new officials have (which carries over to their later years) is to not blow the whistle.

just another ref

JRutledge wrote
Funny you said that. I just worked with an official that is a veteran that put the ball in play after a backcourt violation at the division line, when the touching of the ball (that actually caused the violation) in the backcourt below the top of the 3 point line. I did not make a big deal out of it, but I knew it was wrong. I do not think I have seen someone do that in a long time.

I had the same situation in reverse. Touch was at the free throw line. I called the violation. Throw-in at the end line. Next timeout, my veteran partner asked what the call was. I told him backcourt. He asked why the throw-in was "down there." I said that's where the violation happened. He said nothing else, but his expression said that he thought I didn't know what I was doing.

This one may be worthy of a spot on Billy Mac's list.

Adam

jeffpea wrote
the most common mistake that officials make (at any level or at any experience level) is simply....not blowing the whistle enough.

99.99999% of problems in a game come from not blowing the whistle. the "default" that most new officials have (which carries over to their later years) is to not blow the whistle.

Followed very quickly by calling every little piece of contact a foul. This stage lasts longer, IMO, so I consider it more common at lower levels.

justacoach

BillyMac wrote
After a violation, the ball is awarded to the opponents for a throwin from an out of bounds spot nearest the violation. This is especially true for a backcourt violation, where the ball may not necessarily be put in play at the division line, but, rather, is always put back in play at the spot nearest the violation.

Had a seasoned partner use this diagram to emphasize the throw-in locations could only be the specific spots where the arrows point, especially on the sidelines. Still have scars on my lips as I bit myself to avoid laughing in his face.

BillyMac

just another ref wrote
This one may be worthy of a spot on Billy Mac's list.

And, it's not my list, I'm only the keeper of the list.

just another ref

BillyMac wrote
After a violation, the ball is awarded to the opponents for a throwin from an out of bounds spot nearest the violation. This is especially true for a backcourt violation, where the ball may not necessarily be put in play at the division line, but, rather, is always put back in play at the spot nearest the violation.

And, it's not my list, I'm only the keeper of the list.

So it is worthy.

Rich

jeffpea wrote
the most common mistake that officials make (at any level or at any experience level) is simply....not blowing the whistle enough.

99.99999% of problems in a game come from not blowing the whistle. the "default" that most new officials have (which carries over to their later years) is to not blow the whistle.

How do explain those officials then who call every bit of contact a foul?

Sure, they may avoid "problems" but they're calling a horrible game.

Mark Padgett

RichMSN wrote
How do explain those officials then who call every bit of contact a foul?

Sure, they may avoid "problems" but they're calling a horrible game.

By that standard, I guess my partner and I must have called a wonderful game this afternoon (before the Super Bowl). Seventh grade girls - we called a total of only 8 fouls in the entire game! Not a peep from either coach. Final score was 47-17. Maybe that had something to do with it.

Oh yeah - one girl had two of the fouls. I guess she should be considered "The Enforcer". 😀