Spacing for defense?

gslefeb

Team A's out of bounds. Team A stacks four players tightly together. The question B2 wants to get in between A1 and A2. If B2 requests - can the official force A1 and A2 to separate to allow B2 into the stack?

BillyMac

gslefeb wrote
Can the official force A1 and A2 to separate to allow B2 into the stack?

It depends. Are the four Team A players parallel, or perpendicular, to the boundary, and how close are they to said boundary?

Now before you answer, let me get out my sine, cosine, and tangent tables. Or better yet, here's a chance for me to use the new slide rule that I bought myself for Christmas. That's right, you heard me, it's brand new. They are still making them.

just another ref

See 7-6-5

grunewar

BillyMac - I carry a lot of stuff with me to games.....but these two items are not among them! 😉

just another ref

BillyMac wrote
Now before you answer, let me get out my sine, cosine, and tangent tables.

This is easy.

A sine is what says STOP at the end of the road.

Cosine is when you help your kids borrow money. (often ends badly)

Tangent is a small citrus fruit, kinda like an orange.

BillyMac

just another ref wrote
See 7-6-5

Teammates shall not occupy adjacent positions which are parallel
to and within 3 feet of the boundary line if an opponent desires one of the
positions.

Adam

Most stack plays are perpendicular to the OOB line, so it's legal. Whoever gets there first gets the spot. I've also seen the defense actually get there first and the offense try to move them. Either way, first to the spot gets it.

Scratch85

BillyMac wrote
Or better yet, here's a chance for me to use the new slide rule that I bought myself for Christmas.

I haven't done it in years but I would bet that I can still play "Mary Had A Little Lamb" on the slide. 🙂

Mark Padgett

BillyMac wrote
..... here's a chance for me to use the new slide rule that I bought myself .....

I had a math teacher in HS who had a slide rule tie bar. 🙂

BillyMac

Mark Padgett wrote
I had a math teacher in HS who had a slide rule tie bar.

I remember those. They actually worked. My high school chemistry teacher had one. It would be worth big bucks today.

mbyron

BillyMac wrote
I remember those. They actually worked. My high school chemistry teacher had one. It would be worth big bucks today.

representing

BillyMac wrote
Teammates shall not occupy adjacent positions which are parallel
to and within 3 feet of the boundary line if an opponent desires one of the
positions.

So if A1 is taking the ball out of bounds and A2-A5 are standing shoulder to shoulder as per above (parallel to and within 3 feet of OOB line) and B1 wants to get in between A2 and A3, you have to let them? When does this have to take place, before you give the ball to A1?

EDIT: another question... what if B1 and B2 wants to get in between A2 and A3? Is it only allowing one opponent in between any two players, or can as many opponents request to get in between any two players?

just another ref

representing wrote
So if A1 is taking the ball out of bounds and A2-A5 are standing shoulder to shoulder as per above (parallel to and within 3 feet of OOB line) and B1 wants to get in between A2 and A3, you have to let them? When does this have to take place, before you give the ball to A1?

Yes, prior to the throw-in. See 7.6.5

EDIT: another question... what if B1 and B2 wants to get in between A2 and A3? Is it only allowing one opponent in between any two players, or can as many opponents request to get in between any two players?

The rule says teammates shall not occupy adjacent positions. This would apply to both offense and defense.

bob jenkins

representing wrote
So if A1 is taking the ball out of bounds and A2-A5 are standing shoulder to shoulder as per above (parallel to and within 3 feet of OOB line) and B1 wants to get in between A2 and A3, you have to let them? When does this have to take place, before you give the ball to A1?

EDIT: another question... what if B1 and B2 wants to get in between A2 and A3? Is it only allowing one opponent in between any two players, or can as many opponents request to get in between any two players?

1) Yes and yes. Sigh.

2) Only one (because if there were two, then the offense could request to get in between those two)

gslefeb

adjacent posistions - Is this side by side as in BillyMac's post? Or front to back as in a "stack"? or both?

thanks..

representing

bob jenkins wrote
Only one (because if there were two, then the offense could request to get in between those two)

Good point, didn't think of that. Thanks

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I have owned both a full-size Post Versilog since 1969, a half-size Post Versilog since 1973. I also own a Post Trig slide rule and I bought Mark, Jr., a full-size Versilog as a high school graduation present since he is majoring in both mechanical engineering and physics.

MTD, Sr.

just another ref

gslefeb wrote
adjacent posistions - Is this side by side as in BillyMac's post? Or front to back as in a "stack"? or both?

thanks..

The dictionary definition of adjacent is "being in close proximity." The direction the players are facing would therefore seem not to be significant. The important part is that the positions occupied by the players not be parallel to the line.

Bad Zebra

BillyMac wrote
I remember those. They actually worked. My high school chemistry teacher had one. It would be worth big bucks today.

To whom?

Forksref

mbyron wrote

We had a big yellow one over the blackboard in our physics class. I think it was used by Godzilla on his tie in a movie.