Old Case Books

bas2456

Is there any way to get old case books that might offer some different situations than the 09-10 version?

JRutledge

bas2456 wrote
Is there any way to get old case books that might offer some different situations than the 09-10 version?

You could be careful when using old books. Rules and rulings sometimes change and the interpretations might not apply. Despite what Billy and I talked about.

Peace

bas2456

JRutledge wrote
You could be careful when using old books. Rules and rulings sometimes change and the interpretations might not apply. Despite what Billy and I talked about.

Peace

Right, but for the rules that don't change, do they usually offer different situations?

BillyMac

bas2456 wrote
Is there any way to get old case books that might offer some different situations than the 09-10 version?

Not old casebooks, but Nevadaref, justacoach, bob jenkins, and tjones1, have put together an amazing thread that includes annual interpretations that go back to 1996-97.

http://forum.officiating.com/basketball/49549-past-interps-archive.html#post546070

I have them saved in the form of separate word documents. If you would like them, send me a private message on the Forum, including your real email address, and I'll send them to you.

JRutledge wrote
You could be careful when using old books. Rules and rulings sometimes change and the interpretations might not apply.

I agree 100% with JRutledge. "Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke of luck." (The Dalai Lama). But these archives can still be very useful, and at the least, very interesting.

JRutledge

bas2456 wrote
Right, but for the rules that don't change, do they usually offer different situations?

They may have similar plays with different interpretations or sometimes different rulings. I am just saying you might want to be careful if there are different situations and changes that are not clear. I personally would not want to read old rulings where a definition or editorial change was made. Then again I work 3 sports and I am not trying to learn ever changed rule from the past more than I need to.

Peace

BillyMac

JRutledge wrote
They may have similar plays with different interpretations or sometimes different rulings. I am just saying you might want to be careful if there are different situations and changes that are not clear. I personally would not want to read old rulings where a definition or editorial change was made.

In other words, "And hey, let's be careful out there." (Sgt. Phil Esterhaus)

Camron Rust

Remember that case plays and interpretation don't establish a rule, they just give examples or explain a rule. So, no matter how long ago a case/situation was published, they still remain valid, even if not in current publications, unless there has been a rule change or a new case play that changes the ruling. Everything about current rules that would be "needed" is in the current rules book alone...the case book and situations are merely supplemental.

BillyMac

Camron Rust wrote
No matter how long ago a case/situation was published, they still remain valid, even if not in current publications, unless there has been a rule change or a new case play that changes the ruling.

Camron Rust: Have you checked this philosophy with JRutledge? He may beg to differ with you.

JRutledge

Camron Rust wrote
Remember that case plays and interpretation don't establish a rule, they just give examples or explain a rule. So, no matter how long ago a case/situation was published, they still remain valid, even if not in current publications, unless there has been a rule change or a new case play that changes the ruling. Everything about current rules that would be "needed" is in the current rules book alone...the case book and situations are merely supplemental.

BillyMac wrote
Camron Rust: Have you checked this philosophy with JRutledge? He may beg to differ with you.

The casebook are interpretations, I do not know how you could have a casebook play without some rule to go along with the application.

Peace

BktBallRef

bas2456 wrote
Is there any way to get old case books that might offer some different situations than the 09-10 version?

The Case book doesn't change from year to year, except to add new plays and remove those that are no longer correct by rule change. I have them back to the early 90's. THere's very little change, except for rule changes. Stick with the current book.