How would you rule this obstruction call?

Dakota

MountieSB wrote
... In my opinion, the reasoning for his judgment is wrong.

Mine, too.

MountieSB wrote
... It's an integrity issue. ...

I disagree; I see it is a simple case of an umpire making a mistake. It would only be an integrity issue if he KNEW the rules did not allow him to send the runner back to 2B and he did it anyway.

MountieSB wrote
I am an umpire. ... I didn't make this known to anyone but him at the time. I just want to get it right. I think we HAVE to have conversations if we want to be better as umpires. If you're not having conversations, you're not working very hard.

Were you his partner during this game? If so, did you discuss this with him during the game? If so, did he ask for your input? If the answers are yes, yes, and no, then you were wrong, too.

IRISHMAFIA

steveshane67 wrote
So by that logic, if the OBS led to the defense making a throw that would not have been made if there wasnt OBS, any "extraneous" activity would factor into deciding what base to "award". Is that correct?

Scott, how many times do you think you will have to say "this determination must be made at the time of the OBS" before it gets across?

NCASAUmp

MountieSB wrote
I'm not a coach. I am an umpire. In my opinion, the reasoning for his judgement is wrong. It's an integrity issue. If he would have believed what he was saying, he would have rewarded her 3B. He couldn't figure out why he was doing what he was doing. I only wished we could have talked about it, because his reasoning was WRONG. I don't want to be wrong. He made us look bad, and I'm not comfortable with that. For him to say it was his judgement, then he has to have a rule-bound reason for the judgement. If he would have said to me, "She would have reached third base safely due to the obstruction" I would have said fine. In my opinion, which is why I'm writing on here, he blew the call. I didn't make this known to anyone but him at the time. I just want to get it right. I think we HAVE to have conversations if we want to be better as umpires. If you're not having conversations, you're not working very hard. Coaches and parents aren't the only ones who question umpire calls.

Ahh... Fair enough, blue. Certainly meant no offense. 🙂

We've been getting a lot of players/coaches on here. Nothing meant by it.

It definitely sounds like your partner was conflicted in his story. If he had her protected to 3B, award (not reward) her 3B. If she's only protected to 2B, then she was out for attempting to advance beyond the awarded base at her own risk and getting tagged. Simple.

NCASAUmp

IRISHMAFIA wrote

Tell me about it.

Skahtboi

IRISHMAFIA wrote
Scott, how many times do you think you will have to say "this determination must be made at the time of the OBS" before it gets across?

I am not even going to guess at that, nor am I going to bother repeating myself again. 🙄

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