ibcallindux I can't remember what game this was in but a balk was called when the pitcher did not come to a complete stop before delivering the pitch from the stretch. The color man, Kyle Petersen, said that in the college game the pitcher has to come to a complete stop. He went on to say that in the majors that was not the case. Did I hear that right or did I misunderstand him? Anybody else pick up on that?
jdmara ibcallindux wroteI can't remember what game this was in but a balk was called when the pitcher did not come to a complete stop before delivering the pitch from the stretch. The color man, Kyle Petersen, said that in the college game the pitcher has to come to a complete stop. He went on to say that in the majors that was not the case. Did I hear that right or did I misunderstand him? Anybody else pick up on that? You probably heard him right, he was just wrong -Josh
SAump Two umpire schools of thought. 1) The pitcher must come to a complete stop. 2) The pitcher may blow through the stop with empty bases. I prefer 1 over 2. It avoids a bigger mess later in the game. A "change in direction" is not to be considered as "part" of the complete stop requirement.
bob jenkins SAump wroteTwo umpire schoools of thought. 1) The pitcher must come to a complete stop. 2) The pitcher may blow through the stop with empty bases. I prefer 1 over 2. It avoids a bigger mess later in the game. Your preference notwithstanding, #2 is the rule (interp) in OBR. I believe it's the same in NCAA. The balk rule is to protect the runners. No runners, no need for protection.
Durham ibcallindux wroteI can't remember what game this was in but a balk was called when the pitcher did not come to a complete stop before delivering the pitch from the stretch. The color man, Kyle Petersen, said that in the college game the pitcher has to come to a complete stop. He went on to say that in the majors that was not the case. Did I hear that right or did I misunderstand him? Anybody else pick up on that? I would agree that in AAA and the MLB, complete stops are the rule, but not required. It is more like a small pause, as long as they don't roll through.
umpjim I don't know the difference between a complete stop and a small pause. Both work for me at any level.
SanDiegoSteve dash_riprock wroteOnly FED requires a stop with no baserunners.What is the penalty for it, a ball? I ask because I don't remember and have no rule books handy.
umpjim Illegal pitch. I don't know anybody that would call it. BTW the Little league Green Book which is OBR based wants a stop with no runners on also. Never seen it called.
SanDiegoSteve umpjim wroteIllegal pitch. I don't know anybody that would call it. BTW the Little league Green Book which is OBR based wants a stop with no runners on also. Never seen it called.Just at the Junior, Senior and Big League level, right?
Ump153 umpjim wrote BTW the Little league Green Book which is OBR based wants a stop with no runners on also. Hoppefully no one confuses "OBR based" with OBR.
umpjim Yes, LL wants a stop only in Jrs. Srs. and BL. Ump 153, you made me check if I spelled something wrong. Hopefully, I can't believe anybody would confuse the LGB with straight OBR. But, many have confused OBR with the LGB.
dash_riprock SanDiegoSteve wroteWhat is the penalty for it, a ball? I ask because I don't remember and have no rule books handy. Yes - add a ball to the count and prepare for some BS coming your way.
mbyron ibcallindux wroteThe balks I was referring to were with runners on base. [Jack Nicholson voice]Is there another kind?[/Jack Nicholson voice]