Fielder crashing into runner.

CecilOne

The "holding ball with glove and throwing hand against her chest" part is what looks like USC or malicious, not reaching out for tag. 🙄
But judgement might be that it was just clumsy or misreading the runner.

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CecilOne wrote
The "holding ball with glove and throwing hand against her chest" part is what looks like USC or malicious, not reaching out for tag. 🙄
But judgement might be that it was just clumsy or misreading the runner.

I have trouble with those based on the distances I see in the OP. The angle of the play suggests possible USC or malicious.

NCASAUmp

Whether or not something was done with malicious intent is completely left up to the judgment of the umpire.

GaryBarrentine

Thanks Guys.

So there is no rule, per say, for a fielder crashing/colliding with a runner, except if the umpire determines it to be intentional or malicious and then it could be USC, correct?

Thanks again!

GaryB

CecilOne

Ref Ump Welsch wrote
I have trouble with those based on the distances I see in the OP. The angle of the play suggests possible USC or malicious.

Agree, just suggesting not universal b/w and some judgement, good choice of blue. 🙂

MrRabbit

Ok, so now what do you do with the runner ?

youngump

MrRabbit wrote
Ok, so now what do you do with the runner ?

I don't think the ball is dead for defensive USC. As long as things are settled runner isn't in need of immediate medical care, wait for the play to end. If you do end it early, then I think the right thing to do would be to place runners where they would have reached if not for the USC similar to how an obstruction dead ball is ruled.
As far as I know the rule book is silent on this. But somebody will be along to correct me soon enough if it isn't.
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NCASAUmp

MrRabbit wrote
Ok, so now what do you do with the runner ?

Well, if the tag was made, the tag was made. You have an out. Once everything is done, eject the offending player.

NCASAUmp

youngump wrote
I don't think the ball is dead for defensive USC. As long as things are settled runner isn't in need of immediate medical care, wait for the play to end. If you do end it early, then I think the right thing to do would be to place runners where they would have reached if not for the USC similar to how an obstruction dead ball is ruled.
As far as I know the rule book is silent on this. But somebody will be along to correct me soon enough if it isn't.

The only times you should ever kill the play are if A) a player needs immediate medical attention or B) if the play has clearly ended and softball is no longer being played (as in a bench-clearing brawl), and thus, the play is over. Otherwise, you have no justification for killing the play.

wadeintothem

If they dont need immediate medical attention, it was only attempted USC.

j/k jeez.... 😉

NCASAUmp

wadeintothem wrote
If they dont need immediate medical attention, it was only attempted USC.

j/k jeez.... 😉

I've yet to find the "no harm, no foul" rule in the ASA rule book. 😉

That may have been in the Prison Edition...

SethPDX

wadeintothem wrote
If they dont need immediate medical attention, it was only attempted USC.

j/k jeez.... 😉

Only in the "That's how we did it when I played hardball before I almost coulda shoulda made the big leagues" division. 😉

NCASAUmp

SethPDX wrote
Only in the "That's how we did it when I played hardball before I almost coulda shoulda made the big leagues" division. 😉

Careful... That's the largest sporting association in the world! 🙄

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NCASAUmp wrote
Careful... That's the largest sporting association in the world! :rolleyes:

And the stuffiest one as well. 🙄 😎