Interference call?

NCASAUmp

IRISHMAFIA wrote
I've had this at a men's major. More or less, at that level of play, you need to know with whom you are communicating and make the damn play.

What would happen if you, as the umpire in a 3-umpire system, went out on a ball and waved off the other BU and said, "I got it" and the OF let the ball drop? After all, you called it! 🙄

Yes, you should say "2-umpire" or "2-man", but in the excitement, that isn't always what is said. I have heard, "Mine", "I got it", "My ball" among a few other things. I have not seen a fielder react, but could just imagine the conversation with the defense's coach 😃

Which is why they drill into us calling out something that should not confuse the defense. "2 man" or "one man" or "going" should not cause confusion.

If you deviate from that and cause confusion, you deserve the subsequent ***-chewing.

MichaelVA2000

IRISHMAFIA wrote
If this rattled the catcher to the point she couldn't simply hold the ball or throw it to her teammate, she isn't going to be able to execute something like this 😃

Then it's time for the Dakota play:

Originally Posted by Dakota
It's bush, but not interference. If he keeps trying that, in a couple of years he'll be pulling that big yellow softball out of his ear.

MNBlue

MichaelVA2000 wrote
A perfectly executed pitchout and snap throw down to third would probably take care of this situation.

I agree, but I doubt many 12/13 yr olds would do this. Too bad in this case.

IRISHMAFIA

MichaelVA2000 wrote
Then it's time for the Dakota play:

Originally Posted by Dakota
It's bush, but not interference. If he keeps trying that, in a couple of years he'll be pulling that big yellow softball out of his ear.

Okay, let's take the next step.

If you have a catcher so terribly obvious that they are throwing the ball at the coach, would you ignore that?

If you do, where do you draw the line on retaliatory actions?

Dakota

IRISHMAFIA wrote
If you have a catcher so terribly obvious that they are throwing the ball at the coach, would you ignore that?

I'd probably eject the F2 and laugh and the coach. And, send the runner back to 3B on general principle. 😉

On second thought, I might just draw the line on 12U and younger get a pass with jerk, bush league adults. 😀

CajunNewBlue

IRISHMAFIA wrote
What would happen if you, as the umpire in a 3-umpire system, went out on a ball and waved off the other BU and said, "I got it" and the OF let the ball drop? After all, you called it! 🙄 😃

I "sometimes" say ... "im going" most times i even raise an arm... sometimes i fergit 😮 ....partners should be looking for visual cues (my butt running to the outfield is a pretty good one) not so much the verbal ones.

PtotheB

I had a similar play on Tuesday. BR (who is a fellow umpires daughter and a heck of a player) launches one right down the 3B line. We're playing a HS game on a city field that had fences of about 350' so there's not really a chance of it leaving the park but either way it's going for a ride. I'm BU and cut in as soon as I see it leave the bat. After the BR rounds first I cut a look to my partner who is signalling fair and I run with her to make sure she touches all the bases. Almost as soon as she hit the runners lane the DC is screaming "FOUL BALL, FOUL BALL". He continued this until she touched the plate. The BR didn't even hesitate so I didn't want to rob her of her glory and kill it only to award her home. After the play I call time and have a quick "Come to Jesus" talk with the DC who saw the error of his ways. One of my points to him was that there are only four male voices on the field, two coaches and two umpires. If she had stopped or hesitated it would have left me no choice on a hit like that.

IRISHMAFIA

PtotheB wrote
I had a similar play on Tuesday. BR (who is a fellow umpires daughter and a heck of a player) launches one right down the 3B line. We're playing a HS game on a city field that had fences of about 350' so there's not really a chance of it leaving the park but either way it's going for a ride. I'm BU and cut in as soon as I see it leave the bat. After the BR rounds first I cut a look to my partner who is signalling fair and I run with her to make sure she touches all the bases. Almost as soon as she hit the runners lane the DC is screaming "FOUL BALL, FOUL BALL". He continued this until she touched the plate. The BR didn't even hesitate so I didn't want to rob her of her glory and kill it only to award her home. After the play I call time and have a quick "Come to Jesus" talk with the DC who saw the error of his ways. One of my points to him was that there are only four male voices on the field, two coaches and two umpires. If she had stopped or hesitated it would have left me no choice on a hit like that.

Okay, I understand where you would have went with this if necessary and would have made the same call. But how would you "rob her of her glory and kill it"? If anything, that would be obstruction, which is a delayed dead ball.

Even if she hesitated or stopped, you still are not going to kill the play until she is put out or all play is completed.

MichaelVA2000

IRISHMAFIA wrote
Okay, let's take the next step.

If you have a catcher so terribly obvious that they are throwing the ball at the coach, would you ignore that?

If you do, where do you draw the line on retaliatory actions?

If it's so terribly obvious that they are throwing the ball at the coach, I would not ignore it.

wadeintothem

Im pretty sure it would be accidental...

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CajunNewBlue wrote
I "sometimes" say ... "im going" most times i even raise an arm... sometimes i fergit 😮 ....partners should be looking for visual cues (my butt running to the outfield is a pretty good one) not so much the verbal ones.

Ummm...I'm resisting making you the "butt" of a joke here! 😀

CajunNewBlue

Ref Ump Welsch wrote
Ummm...I'm resisting making you the "butt" of a joke here! 😃

And I appreciate that. 😀

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