Name changed in book at halftime

Adam

Snaqwells wrote
You tell them to supply the names as well.

deecee wrote
easier said then done for lower level games sometimes -- the effort is not worth the hassle.

What hassle?

"Coach, I see numbers, but to avoid the T, we need to have names as well. I'll give you an extra minute to do that."

At lower levels (which is really the only place this would be an issue), we usually don't hit them at the 10 minute mark anyway.

BillyMac

derwil wrote
BillyMac already had something like I just added. Great Job Billy!! Well thought out, you are one smart guy!

Thanks, but to be honest, this, i.e. understanding administrative technical fouls, is one of my goals for the season so I don't mind spending time pondering the various permutations of the penalties (I think I've been reading too many of mbyron's posts lately), I had the day off yesterday, since my game got snowed out, so I had lots of extra time on my hands, and, most importantly, I slept at a Holiday Inn Express Friday night.

I still have several questions about this situation, the most important being, does the ball becoming live at the toss to start the game end the requirements of NFHS 10-1-1, at which point the requirements of NFHS 10-1-2 kick in, or do the requirements of NFHS 10-1-1 last until the end of the game when the officials leave the visual confines of the court?

BillyMac

derwil wrote
Check to see if there was a sheet of paper with the boys names/numbers supplied to the table from which the info was copied into the book. If there is a sheet and the name is correct on the paper, the coach has fulfilled their obligation under the rules. Change the name and play on.

Rookies: derwil makes an excellent point here. Please take note. The requirement of 10-1-1 is not that the scorebook be 100% correct. The requirement of 10-1-1 is that team supply the scorer with the name and number of each team member who may participate and designate the five starting players at least 10 minutes before the scheduled starting time.

bob jenkins

Nevadaref wrote
If you don't care enough to make the effort to do it right, then please stop officiating. :mad:

Oh please. That's more than a little over the top.

In some (I'd guess many) areas, enforcing all the administrative requirements for Saturday morning Frehsman "C" games, or any "rec league" game would quickly brand you as an OOO.

deecee

bob jenkins wrote
Oh please. That's more than a little over the top.

In some (I'd guess many) areas, enforcing all the administrative requirements for Saturday morning Frehsman "C" games, or any "rec league" game would quickly brand you as an OOO.

My point exactly -- as much as I would love to enforce EVERY rule in the book for EVERY level of play -- in reality this is just not possible

ranjo

This afternoon, our board interperter ruled that the crew was correct in administering a technical foul based on 10-1-1 and 10-2-b. Therefore I concur with his ruling. 😎

Nevadaref

bob jenkins wrote
Oh please. That's more than a little over the top.

In some (I'd guess many) areas, enforcing all the administrative requirements for Saturday morning Frehsman "C" games, or any "rec league" game would quickly brand you as an OOO.

Sorry, bob, but I have to agree with Snaqs in post #21. It's not a hassle.
Proper administration of the game is important. It should be done right for all games.

Now how an official judges traveling or 3-seconds during the game is another matter.

muxbule

deecee wrote
My point exactly -- as much as I would love to enforce EVERY rule in the book for EVERY level of play -- in reality this is just not possible

So how do you decide which rules to set aside if you can't enforce EVERY rule? We don't have freshman game rulebook or a JV rulebook and then the varsity rule book. Last I looked they all play by the same rules and we are there to enforce them to the best of our ability.
Rec league is a different animal IMO.

SCalScoreKeeper

Varsity scorers like officials are supposed to be the best of the best! This means knowing the kids names (First and Last) and numbers for the team(s) that you are scoring for. In order to keep this from happening to me I did what was suggested in one of the replies and have been typing out the varsity rosters (I work both boys and girls varsity!). That way all I have to do is give a copy of the appropriate roster to our opponent's scorekeeper. This could have been caught in pre-game if the home scorer had made just a little extra effort. All he/she had to do was ask the visiting coach to verify that all information was correct on the paper. If it was wrong then visiting HC could make the corrections.
It also means dressing and conducting ourselves in a professional manner! I take my job seriously from dress (Golf shirt with school's name/slacks or tie/slacks) to how I handle a game (cell phone on silent and in my bag, communication with fellow table officials & floor officials).

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