kboese Slapping the Backboard. What is the rule? If a defensive player tries to block an errant shot that has no chance to go in and in the process, the defensive play follows thru and slaps the backboard. The slap is evident, but it doesn't cause the backboard to move or shake and had no effect on the shot. Is this a technical foul, basket interference, or just continue to play?
Todd VandenAkker I'm sure someone will quote the rulebook here, but a key component in this situation is whether the player made a legitimate attempt to block the shot. If he did, pass on it, even if the backboard shook a bit.
johnfox Had it last night. Did not affect the play. Was an obvious attempt at shot block, ring did not shake, NO CALL. ------------------ foxyref
jackgil Question - for our new member Matthew especially - If it is a slap and not an attempt to block shot.....do you count the shot, give technical or both?
pizanno Because you have 4 more posts than Matt, you can call him "new"? Technical, which kills the play. No basket, even if it goes in. You can have basket interference, or a tech, but not both.
jackgil Pizano 4 more posts and 41 years. I was just trying to be friendly and show some attention to Matthew who is 12 and knows more than a lot of the refs I've called with. Matthew -- you are going to be one heck of a ref someday.
jackgil Basket interference if the ball has a chance to go in i.e., in the cylinder, on the rim, etc.
Todd VandenAkker quote: Originally posted by pizanno on 02-14-2000 02:48 PM Technical, which kills the play. No basket, even if it goes in. You can have basket interference, or a tech, but not both. Let's not lead our new young friend astray, now. Slapping the backboard, intentionally or inadvertently, has no affect on whether the shot counts or not. If it goes in, it counts. If it misses, it is NOT basket interference. A technical foul does not cause a legitimate shot to be dead. It is assessed separately on its own merits. So, if he slaps the board not as part of a block attempt, you count the bucket if it goes in AND assess a "T."
jackgil Thanks Todd, I agree with you on the basket and technical. Not so sure on interference. Its just I've seen a shot on the rim about to go in and a player has slapped the backboard so hard that it doesn't. I think it is reasonable to say a player has interfered. What do others think?
bob jenkins quote: Originally posted by jackgil on 02-15-2000 08:11 AM Thanks Todd, I agree with you on the basket and technical. Not so sure on interference. Its just I've seen a shot on the rim about to go in and a player has slapped the backboard so hard that it doesn't. I think it is reasonable to say a player has interfered. What do others think? I think that striking the backboard doesn't meet the definition of BI in 4-6, and isn't listed as a violation in the rules or case book sections dealing with this. So, it's not (under the rules) BI. Now, *should* it be? Maybe -- but I'm not sure I want to be the one to judge whether the ball would or would not have gone in without the slap. Heck, maybe the ball was about to fall out and the slap caused it to go in?
jackgil Bob Thanks. I knew it wasnt a violation in the rules...I was trying to get some feedback as to whether it should be...
pizanno didn't mean to offend...I should have use an emoticon 😉 Just realized that Matt is 12; a mature and literate 12 at that! Also, should have clarified that Basket Interference has nothing to do with Slapping the backboard. Todd is right. T does not kill the flight of the ball. It would kill it if the player is in the act of shooting, but has not released the ball yet.
jackgil Pizanno - No problem. BTW, I discovered this site purely by accident, but it sure has been a great source for any questions/doubts I've had on the most misunderstood rules of the game. I'm looking forward to learning from you and the other refs and sharing some of my knowledge and experiences.