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http://www.probasketballreferee.com/coaching/

Mark Padgett

Sorry - I don't have a spare four hours to read through it. 😛

Seriously, on the surface, it seems impressive. Ed T. Rush certainly has credibility.

Raymond

It's Ed T. Rush trying to make money. There's nothing wrong with that but I'm not going to read through all that stuff when the real meat and potatoes of what he is saying is only available through the purchase of his product.

Scrapper1

It sounds like total spam, except that it's got Ed Rush's name on it. I happen to know one of the officials who gave a testimonial on the site. I will contact that person and ask how the program is. I'll get the response to you hopefully today or tomorrow.

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Cool, thanks for the feedback guys! I thought I would check-in with the board on this, before obtaining a new monthly bill. Lord knows my game fees are quite lower in the off-season... 🙁

jdw3018

You've got a PM, Ch1town

grunewar

Ch1town wrote
Cool, thanks for the feedback guys! I thought I would check-in with the board on this, before obtaining a new monthly bill. Lord knows my game fees are quite lower in the off-season... 🙁

And this bill could be a hefty one.....

Scrapper1

grunewar wrote
And this bill could be a hefty one.....

It's "only" $400, which is basically the cost of one camp.

M&M Guy

Wouldn't it be interesting if the main secret is to move to California?

grunewar

Scrapper1 wrote
It's "only" $400, which is basically the cost of one camp.

Scrap - I understand it's all relative, but I was also including the part that said "I will invest the low monthly coaching rate of $47 a month."

Scrapper1

grunewar wrote
Scrap - I understand it's all relative, but I was also including the part that said "I will invest the low monthly coaching rate of $47 a month."

HA!! I didn't even see that! They sort of slip that in on the enrollment page. Well, that certainly does make a difference. $600/yr? That's pretty steep, unless it includes camp fees. Then it might be worth it.

Jurassic Referee

M&M Guy wrote
Wouldn't it be interesting if the main secret is to move to California?

Yup, don't need no stinking NBA program out there in the Magical Land Of College And Beyond. Three years in Cali and you're at least a D1 official.....automatic.

Of course when you do become a D1 official, all of the first year officials will then tell you how bad you are. As near as I can tell, the average shelf life of all D1 officials in Cali is about 3 games anyway before they're replaced by one of those up-and-comers.

It's true, it's true.......😃

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grunewar wrote
Scrap - I understand it's all relative, but I was also including the part that said "I will invest the low monthly coaching rate of $47 a month."

...and after your two month trial is complete, you will be billed at our lowest ever membership rate of $47 a month. Plus, you have no obligation to continue and can cancel at any time.

Jurassic Referee

Scrapper1 wrote
I happen to know one of the officials who gave a testimonial on the site. I will contact that person and ask how the program is. I'll get the response to you hopefully today or tomorrow.

I noticed that one of the testimonials came from a David Posner, who states he is a D1 official. I checked on BBstate.com and there's no record on there of a Posner doing any D1 games this year. Typo, I wonder? or maybe he's Bhuck Elics alter ego?

Raymond

Jurassic Referee wrote
I noticed that one of the testimonials came from a David Posner, who states he is a D1 official. I checked on BBstate.com and there's no record on there of a Posner doing any D1 games this year. Typo, I wonder? or maybe he's Bhuck Elics alter ego?

I worked with him once a couple years ago and he is a pretty good official, but I have no idea if he has moved up the ladder or not. It's possible he's on staff somewhere but didn't receive any games.

Scrapper1

I find it interesting that this is included in the Terms of Use:

100% of the royalties that Ed Rush Sr. receives from his work on this project go to non-profit / charitable organizations (e.g. Blow the Whistle on Cancer).

So he does all this for free? Or maybe he's paid in salary AND royalties; and the royalties go to charity? I think it's great that he donates some part of the profits to charity. It does make me curious, though.

Scrapper1

Also noticed this:

So, hypothetically, let’s say that right now you invest in the System. Two years from now (through the things you learn in this course), you make it to Division One. Let’s conservatively calculate an average 40 games for a season at just $800 per game.

It made me wonder if 40 games is a conservative calculation. There are just under 900 officials listed on bbstate.com. Exactly 127 received 40 or more assignments this season. That's about 14% of officials. It looks to me as though most are in the single digits; and I know that there are many officials on a conference roster who don't get any games.

I realize it's just a sales pitch, but 40 games per season seems optimistic, rather than conservative.

Mark Padgett

Scrapper1 wrote
I find it interesting that this is included in the Terms of Use:

So he does all this for free? Or maybe he's paid in salary AND royalties; and the royalties go to charity? I think it's great that he donates some part of the profits to charity. It does make me curious, though.

I donate all my ref fees - to my pharmacist. 😛

Raymond

Scrapper1 wrote
Also noticed this:

It made me wonder if 40 games is a conservative calculation. There are just under 900 officials listed on bbstate.com. Exactly 127 received 40 or more assignments this season. That's about 14% of officials. It looks to me as though most are in the single digits; and I know that there are many officials on a conference roster who don't get any games.

I realize it's just a sales pitch, but 40 games per season seems optimistic, rather than conservative.

You'll get 40 games if you attend Ed T. Rush's Southern California symposium.

M&M Guy

Mark Padgett wrote
I donate all my ref fees - to my pharmacist. :p

And the pharmacist still doesn't get paid enough.