Dan_ref Originally posted by BktBallRef Let's change the play. Ai is fouled by B1, who is DQ'ed for his 5th foul. A1 will will shoot 1&1. The T is at the table, hand in the air, waiting for the sub. The L administers the FT which is missed. B rebounds the ball when the T realizes that the L has just committed a cluster firetruck! Now, what do we do? If I had my way it's all wiped off and we resume play with A1's 1&1 after B6 enters. If everyone else had their way it's B's ball after we let B6 into the game. Does the Russian judge get a vote?
Dan_ref Originally posted by Slider O.K., now I see what you were saying; but you are applying the resuming procedure and then saying it isn't a resuming situation. And, it isn't a PROPER resuming situation; B has not had a proper amount of time to get to the lane positions. I think the officials error trumps the resuming procedure. If A misses the first FT, then A just blew their one and only chance at that FT in my opinion. Well, it's not a resuming play sitch at all, it's a major screw up by the lead who put the ball at the FT'ers disposal (notice I did not say "put the ball in play" 😉 ). But this is a minor point. Let's think about this. If A1's attempt is a valid attempt (ie the ball was live) then why hasn't B violated by not occupying the spaces underneath? Does the L's screw-up invalidate the rules governing FT's?
Bart Tyson OK, BktBallRef changes the play, now Dan_Ref changes BktBallRef's change by saying team B not in the blocks. Lets change it again and say Team B had six players on the court.
Dan_ref Originally posted by Bart Tyson OK, BktBallRef changes the play, now Dan_Ref changes BktBallRef's change by saying team B not in the blocks. Lets change it again and say Team B had six players on the court. Nope, not what happened at all. Reread my last 2 posts, they are completely separate, the first is my response to bktballref's change, the second is a followup to slider. We got a lot of threads going on here!
Slider Originally posted by Dan_ref Does the L's screw-up invalidate the rules governing FT's? [/B]Yes.
Dan_ref Originally posted by Slider Originally posted by Dan_ref Does the L's screw-up invalidate the rules governing FT's? Yes. [/B] Although I find your style entertaining you would be wrong. But I like that, it's your story and you're sticking to it.
rainmaker Wow, cool! Do you realize that we've gone three pages without ever calling anyone names, or taking anything personally; Also we've stayed on topic. Do you think we might all be growing up a little?
ChuckElias Originally posted by rainmaker Do you think we might all be growing up a little? Jeez, I hope not! That would suck all the fun right out of the board. 😉 Party-pooper!! Does that count as name-calling? 😛 Chuck
Mark T.​ DeNucci, Sr.​ I am still confused. How does the Lead's screw-up invalidate the free throws that were shot? I have yet to see any rules reference that would allow us to invoke the correctable error rule. A1 and Team A got to shoot free throws that they were entitled.
Brad I agree Mark -- this is NOT a correctable error. It is what we call, in technical terms, an official screw-up. And it is not correctable.
Mark Dexter Originally posted by rainmaker Wow, cool! Do you realize that we've gone three pages without ever calling anyone names, or taking anything personally; Also we've stayed on topic. Do you think we might all be growing up a little? Maybe a little. Of course, the "force-out" topic erased any of that . . .