riden Simple question My league follows FIBA rules this year, we had been NCAA. You have 8 secs to get across mid court When does that 8 sec count begin? I thought it starts as soon as the ball is threw the hoop, colleagues say I am wrong.
jdw3018 No idea about FIBA rules. But if it mirrors NFHS or NCAA on backcourt counts, the count starts once control is established inbounds...
riden You are right, I looked it up. I watched a horrible game the other day, a jr girls team took forever to get the ball inbounded. Ball woudl lie on the ground, they would slowly mosey over. Happened too much and the official only warned the players. Can this qualify as a 5 sec violation?
jdw3018 Snaqwells wroteWhen players are unreasonably slow in picking the ball up, I will start my count. Agreed. I deem the ball to be at their disposal when the thrower could get to the ball in what I deem to be a normal time frame. They don't have to sprint over there, but if I judge the player a "time-waster" the count starts.
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. riden wroteSimple question My league follows FIBA rules this year, we had been NCAA. You have 8 secs to get across mid court When does that 8 sec count begin? I thought it starts as soon as the ball is threw the hoop, colleagues say I am wrong. FIBA's criteria as to when the count starts is the same as NFHS, NCAA Men's & Women's, and NBA/WNBA. MTD, Sr.
Mark Padgett Last week, I had a 9 second violation. I called 3 seconds in the key on three players at the same time. I actually said, "3 seconds - there, there and there (as I pointed at the players), so 9 seconds". The table crew and my partner laughed. The coach of the offending team didn't.
Ref_in_Alberta riden wroteSimple question My league follows FIBA rules this year, we had been NCAA. You have 8 secs to get across mid court When does that 8 sec count begin? I thought it starts as soon as the ball is threw the hoop, colleagues say I am wrong. From a fellow FIBA official... The 8 sec backcourt count starts once the team that is advancing the ball gains control whether on a inbounds play or a turnover. Remember if the "new" defence deflects the ball OOB in the backcourt the count does not reset.
Back In The Saddle Mark Padgett wroteLast week, I had a 9 second violation. I called 3 seconds in the key on three players at the same time. I actually said, "3 seconds - there, there and there (as I pointed at the players), so 9 seconds". The table crew and my partner laughed. The coach of the offending team didn't.He was prolly busy trying to add it all up, and struggling 😉
WhistlesAndStripes Ref_in_Alberta wroteFrom a fellow FIBA official... The 8 sec backcourt count starts once the team that is advancing the ball gains control whether on a inbounds play or a turnover. Remember if the "new" defence deflects the ball OOB in the backcourt the count does not reset. Interesting. So in FIBA, is there team control during a throw-in?:rolleyes:
Ref_in_Alberta Whistles & Stripes wroteInteresting. So in FIBA, is there team control during a throw-in?:rolleyes: There is team control on a throw-in, once the ball is at the disposal of the thrower in. However to clarify the 8-sec back court does not start until the status of the ball is live and the clock starts in the case of a stopped clock period. Obviously after a made basket when the clock is still running, team control starts when the ball is at the disposal. The b/c count starts when the ball is controlled on the court.
canuckref Ref_in_Alberta wroteThere is team control on a throw-in, once the ball is at the disposal of the thrower in. However to clarify the 8-sec back court does not start until the status of the ball is live and the clock starts in the case of a stopped clock period. Obviously after a made basket when the clock is still running, team control starts when the ball is at the disposal. The b/c count starts when the ball is controlled on the court. just for clarity from fiba: 28.2.1 Whenever a player gains control of a live ball in his backcourt, his team must cause the ball to go into its frontcourt within eight (8) seconds.
Mark Padgett canuckref wrotejust for clarity from fiba: 28.2.1 Whenever a player gains control of a live ball in his backcourt, his team must cause the ball to go into its frontcourt within eight (8) seconds. Does doing it telepathically count? 😕
Jurassic Referee Mark Padgett wroteDoes doing it telepathically count? :confused:Let me think about it.......
jallen In FIBA, you do not get a new 8 sec count if the ball is batted away from you in the back court. If you are dribbling in the back court for say 5 sec and the ball is knocked out of bounds, you now have 3 sec to get the ball into the from court. In the same senerio, if you call a time out at the 5 sec mark, you have 3 sec left t0 get it over.