Rule Question

Mark Dexter

JRutledge wrote
No the college rule is not the same. I am not even sure that Men's and Women's is the same as to how this would be handled.

Flagrant Technical (dead ball) is enforced just like a HS technical. The ball would be placed at the division line given to the offended team after 2 FTs. A bench technical or "Bench Restriction Technical" is enforced by putting the ball in play at the point of interruption. So in this case you would have the ball given at the division line with Team A in possession after 4 FTs.

In the original situation, wouldn't this be reversed? The flagrant T was on A1, so B will get the division line throw-in.

Women's NCAA here is same as men's.

Old School

JRutledge wrote
No the college rule is not the same. I am not even sure that Men's and Women's is the same as to how this would be handled.

Flagrant Technical (dead ball) is enforced just like a HS technical. The ball would be placed at the division line given to the offended team after 2 FTs. A bench technical or "Bench Restriction Technical" is enforced by putting the ball in play at the point of interruption. So in this case you would have the ball given at the division line with Team A in possession after 4 FTs.

So if everything was the same and A6 got a bench technical (instead of B2), then the ball would go back to Team A after each team shot 2 FTs.

Peace

Wait a minute ole Rut boy. Me thinks you got this wrong. After the flagrant, team B is now in possession, technical on team B, team A shoots FT's but team B gets the ball at the division line. POI sir, you pointed that out but gave the ball to the wrong team.

Have fun taking that apart.

JoeTheRef

Mark Dexter wrote
Care to clarify this, Juulie? In NFHS, in order to have an indirect technical on the coach, you have to have a direct technical assessed to someone else.

That someone could be the "bench". So it doesn't have to be any one player in particular. I could not know who said what, but if I hear "you're a piece of sh&% ref" from the bench with my back turned, I'm whacking the bench and letting the coach know that he just lost his coaching box priviliges.

Lotto

JRutledge wrote
No the college rule is not the same.

One other thing about NCAA is that there is no "seatbelt" rule. He/she may still use the coaching box after the indirect T is assessed to him/her.

Mark Dexter

JoeTheRef wrote
That someone could be the "bench". So it doesn't have to be any one player in particular. I could not know who said what, but if I hear "you're a piece of sh&% ref" from the bench with my back turned, I'm whacking the bench and letting the coach know that he just lost his coaching box priviliges.

That's fine (as long as you go along with the T-ing the "bench" is okay philosophy). I just wanted to point out the fact that someone (or someones) must get a direct T before the HC can get an indirect T.

JRutledge

Old School wrote
Wait a minute ole Rut boy. Me thinks you got this wrong. After the flagrant, team B is now in possession, technical on team B, team A shoots FT's but team B gets the ball at the division line. POI sir, you pointed that out but gave the ball to the wrong team.

Have fun taking that apart.

One of these days you will decide to pick up a rulebook. On second thought.....

Rule 10-14-1

Section 14. Penalty for Flagrant Technical Fouls

Art. 1. The penalty for a flagrant technical foul shall be two free throws awarded to a player of the offended team and possession of the ball to the offended team at the designated spot at the division line.

I guess some things will never change. 🙄

Peace

JRutledge

Mark Dexter wrote
In the original situation, wouldn't this be reversed? The flagrant T was on A1, so B will get the division line throw-in.

Women's NCAA here is same as men's.

This is why you do not post early in the morning. Of course Team B would get the ball at the division line.

Peace

Old School

JRutledge wrote
One of these days you will decide to pick up a rulebook. On second thought.....

Rule 10-14-1

Section 14. Penalty for Flagrant Technical Fouls

Art. 1. The penalty for a flagrant technical foul shall be two free throws awarded to a player of the offended team and possession of the ball to the offended team at the designated spot at the division line.

I guess some things will never change. 🙄

Peace

There you have it, but you gave the ball to the wrong team! Now, what teams gets the ball after the 2nd technical, ncaa rules?

rainmaker

Old School wrote
There you have it, but you gave the ball to the wrong team! Now, what teams gets the ball after the 2nd technical, ncaa rules?

Good grief OS, it was a typo. Give the guy a little bit of a break. As we do with so many of your typos!!

JRutledge

rainmaker wrote
Good grief OS, it was a typo. Give the guy a little bit of a break. As we do with so many of your typos!!

If I had defended my position and said this was my opinion then he would have thought you give the ball back to Team A. Then he would have told us all how wrong the NCAA is and that this will happen to them some day and they need to do the right thing. Then he would have claimed that his big-time rec. game this took place and he set the record straight.

Peace

BktBallRef

rainmaker wrote
It's pretty simple, really. Penalize fouls in the order they occurred. B shoots A1's technical. then A shoots for B6's T. Since B6 is bench personnel, there is an indirect T on head coach, regardless of whether you have direct knowledge of who said it.. Play resumes with A receviing the ball at the midcourt line, because that's part of the last foul committed. Now that wasn't so bad, was it?

You missed something.

FTs are administered in the order in which the fouls occurred.

B shoots 2 FTs, A shoots 2 FTs and A gets the ball at the division line for a throw-in.

The HC loses coaching box privileges.

A1 is disqualified.

It makes no difference what type of technical foul it is, with regard to where the throw-in is.

rainmaker

BktBallRef wrote
You missed something.

FTs are administered in the order in which the fouls occurred.

B shoots 2 FTs, A shoots 2 FTs and A gets the ball at the division line for a throw-in.

The HC loses coaching box privileges.

A1 is disqualified.

It makes no difference what type of technical foul it is, with regard to where the throw-in is.

Thanks. I didn't spell it out in as much detail as I might have.