Warning!! Danger!! Annual Off-topic Baseball Thread '07!! Beware!!

rainmaker

Snaqwells wrote
I'm still trying to figure out exactly how they would have done the play-in if the Mets had won yesterday and forged a tie with Philly, SD, and CO. Two teams tied for the division lead tied with two other teams for the wild card lead.

Exactly. Saturday night, addled with cranberry pop, and exhausted from the wild evening of Uno, lying in my top bunk in my sleeping bag, I was losing sleep over this. More play-in games than the play-offs!

Jimgolf

ChuckElias wrote
And then, you give up a 2-out bases loaded bunt for a hit to lose the game? That's just bizarre. Who would even attempt a bunt with 2 outs and the bases loaded? Was ARod playing on the outfield grass or something?

Wasn't ARod. They had Wilson Betemit in there. After playing in on the grass for the first two outs, the infield relaxed and moved way back. Betemit was indeed very close to the outfield grass. Perfect bunt by Mora, hard enough that the pitcher couldn't make a play, soft enough that Betemit had no chance.

Mark Dexter

Snaqwells wrote
I'm still trying to figure out exactly how they would have done the play-in if the Mets had won yesterday and forged a tie with Philly, SD, and CO. Two teams tied for the division lead tied with two other teams for the wild card lead.

This came up on a few news stories.

I'm pretty sure that the Mets and Phils would have played a 1-game playoff to determine the division leader. Then, depending on who won that, there'd be a round-robin of sorts to determine the NL wild card.

Adam

Mark Dexter wrote
This came up on a few news stories.

I'm pretty sure that the Mets and Phils would have played a 1-game playoff to determine the division leader. Then, depending on who won that, there'd be a round-robin of sorts to determine the NL wild card.

That makes sense, do the RR between the remaining three teams.

Nevadaref

Snaqwells wrote
That makes sense, do the RR between the remaining three teams.

And what it that yields all teams being 1-1? 😉

I don't really know how a tie amongst more than one team is handled. I do know that the division winner is determined first though.

It would have been fun to see. I was rooting for a four-way tie myself.

Nevadaref

Who on here knows if the stats from this tiebreaker game between the Padres and Rockies count toward the regular season or postseason?

For example, has Holliday won the batting title already or is he risking it tonight?

mbyron

Nevadaref wrote
And what it that yields all teams being 1-1? 😉

I don't really know how a tie amongst more than one team is handled. I do know that the division winner is determined first though.

It would have been fun to see. I was rooting for a four-way tie myself.

They would not have done round robin -- takes too long, and could end indecisively.

More likely: draw lots for a "bye," the other 2 teams play, the bye team plays the winner for the wild card spot. Done decisively in 2 days.

mbyron

Nevadaref wrote
Who on here knows if the stats from this tiebreaker game between the Padres and Rockies count toward the regular season or postseason?

For example, has Holliday won the batting title already or is he risking it tonight?

Has to be postseason. Regular season is over.

Dan_ref

mbyron wrote
They would not have done round robin -- takes too long, and could end indecisively.

More likely: draw lots for a "bye," the other 2 teams play, the bye team plays the winner for the wild card spot. Done decisively in 2 days.

Yes, that's what I remember reading on Saturday. Somehow the best of the 4 is selected by record for a bye or by lot if needed.

Nevadaref

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Who on here knows if the stats from this tiebreaker game between the Padres and Rockies count toward the regular season or postseason?

For example, has Holliday won the batting title already or is he risking it tonight?

mbyron wrote
Has to be postseason. Regular season is over.

Do you know for sure as I asked or are you just guessing? Because I happen to think that you are incorrect.

mbyron

Nevadaref wrote
Do you know for sure as I asked or are you just guessing? Because I happen to think that you are incorrect.

You're right: I am. How odd that a playoff game can affect a batting title.

http://tinyurl.com/2h9fsq

ChuckElias

No posts about the Padres/Rockies game? What an unbelievable way to end the regular season. One game playoff that goes extra innings. The best closer in the NL blows the save and loses the game. Controversial calls, little known guys coming up huge for both teams. Ugly uniforms on the Padres, too.

14 wins in 15 games sure will go a long way to making the playoffs!

JugglingReferee

ChuckElias wrote
No posts about the Padres/Rockies game? What an unbelievable way to end the regular season. One game playoff that goes extra innings. The best closer in the NL blows the save and loses the game. Controversial calls, little known guys coming up huge for both teams. Ugly uniforms on the Padres, too.

14 wins in 15 games sure will go a long way to making the playoffs!

I don't think the guy touched home plate. If I am correct, why is the runner safe? 😕

Jurassic Referee

JugglingReferee wrote
I don't think the guy touched home plate. If I am correct, why is the runner safe? :confused:

The runner was safe because the umpire ruled that he did touch home. Iow, you aren't correct(even if you are correct).

There's a big discussion on the beisbol forum as to whether the call was missed or not. Moot point now anyway.

M&M Guy

I wish I had a chance to see it; I could only catch the scores on ESPN's bottom line.

Weren't there a couple of controversial calls that game besides the play at the plate? Was there something about a home run being called double?

And, if this is considered a regular-season game, why did they use 6 umpires? Don't they only use the extra umpires in post-season?

Jurassic Referee

M&M Guy wrote
I wish I had a chance to see it; I could only catch the scores on ESPN's bottom line.

Weren't there a couple of controversial calls that game besides the play at the plate? Was there something about a home run being called double?

And, if this is considered a regular-season game, why did they use 6 umpires? Don't they only use the extra umpires in post-season?

You can see it. There's a link to the video replay in the thread on the baseball forum.

The "homerun" was a double. It hit the top of the rail and came back into the field of play.

They used 6 umpires because it basically was a playoff game, no matter what they called it.

rainmaker

Sheez, the mets can't even beat the yankees at losing!

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7286840

WhistlesAndStripes

Nevadaref wrote
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Who on here knows if the stats from this tiebreaker game between the Padres and Rockies count toward the regular season or postseason?

For example, has Holliday won the batting title already or is he risking it tonight?

Do you know for sure as I asked or are you just guessing? Because I happen to think that you are incorrect.

Looks like you found the correct answer. From what I heard on Sunday night, he would have to have gone 0-for-5 in the tiebreaker game to lose the title.

Nevadaref

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron
They would not have done round robin -- takes too long, and could end indecisively.

More likely: draw lots for a "bye," the other 2 teams play, the bye team plays the winner for the wild card spot. Done decisively in 2 days.

Dan_ref wrote
Yes, that's what I remember reading on Saturday. Somehow the best of the 4 is selected by record for a bye or by lot if needed.

I found out how this would have worked, if anyone cares.

MLB flipped a bunch of coins and Colorado was the big winner. In the event of a four team tie, they had the option of playing two games at home or one game on the road. They selected the single road game because it meant that they got a free win or a "bye".

So what would have happened is the Mets would have played one game at Phili on Monday. The winner gets the NL East and the loser goes into the WC battle.

The NL East loser would head to San Diego for a single game on Tuesday. The loser is out. The winner hosts Colorado on Wed for the WC bid.

But it didn't happen because the Mets couldn't win a game at the end. 🙁

Dan_ref

Nevadaref wrote
Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron
They would not have done round robin -- takes too long, and could end indecisively.

More likely: draw lots for a "bye," the other 2 teams play, the bye team plays the winner for the wild card spot. Done decisively in 2 days.

I found out how this would have worked, if anyone cares.

MLB flipped a bunch of coins and Colorado was the big winner. In the event of a four team tie, they had the option of playing two games at home or one game on the road. They selected the single road game because it meant that they got a free win or a "bye".

So what would have happened is the Mets would have played one game at Phili on Monday. The winner gets the NL East and the loser goes into the WC battle.

The NL East loser would head to San Diego for a single game on Tuesday. The loser is out. The winner hosts Colorado on Wed for the WC bid.

But it didn't happen because the Mets ~~couldn't win a game~~ got their @zzes kicked at the end. 🙁

Yep, that's how I remember it, except I didn't realize Colorado already won their coin flip. I thought it was supposed to be between the 3 reamining teams somehow, looking at head to head play and the like.

Would have been something to see.

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