NFHS 2006 Part 1 TEST

tjones1

Anyone know where I can get more?!?

tjones1

Jurassic Referee wrote
Question?

According to the IHSA website, to advance in classification in Illinois from a "recognized" official to a "certified" official, you must go to a designated site and write a proctored, closed-book two-hour max exam. You must pass that exam with at least an 85% score. Correct?

Now, that particular exam is the NFHS Part II exam. It is to be written on November 20th. in Illinois this year. Do you feel that it would be OK for an Illinois official to post on this site before November 20th., asking for someone to send him the NFHS Part II exam and answers? Do you also feel that it's OK, if you had that exam and answers, to then send that exam and answers to other Illinois officials before November 20th.? If Michigan officials were writing the same FED exam closed-book for certification or advancement on November 30th., would it be OK for you to pass your exam and answers along to them also before November 30th.?

JR,

Sort of, to go to recognized you have to go to the site, however, the Part II exam is still open book. From recognized to certified is a closed book exam. And yes, must get an 85% either way.

Jurassic Referee

tjones1 wrote
JR,

Sort of, to go to recognized you have to go to the site, however, the Part II exam is still open book. From recognized to certified is a closed book exam. And yes, must get an 85% either way.

To attain a "certified" rating, on top of getting at least 85% on Part II, don't you also have to get at least 90% on the NFHS Part I exam?

You know, the Part I exam that's meaningless?🙂

And, for the "Power Points" used to determine post-season assignments, aren't more points given out for a higher certification level, and for how well that you did on the Part I exam? Don't you get 5 power-points for getting 97+% on the Part I exam, as opposed to only 1 power-point for getting 80%? If so, then it seems to me that having the Part I exam and answers early sureasheck could make a difference in Illinois.

WhistlesAndStripes

Jurassic Referee wrote
And, for the "Power Points" used to determine post-season assignments, aren't more points given out for a higher certification level, and for how well that you did on the Part I exam? Don't you get 5 power-points for getting 97+% on the Part I exam, as opposed to only 1 power-point for getting 80%? If so, then it seems to me that having the Part I exam and answers early sureasheck could make a difference in Illinois.

Then that is something that Illinois will have to deal with woody.

tjones1

Jurassic Referee wrote
To attain a "certified" rating, on top of getting at least 85% on Part II, don't you also have to get at least 90% on the NFHS Part I exam?

You know, the Part I exam that's meaningless?🙂

And, for the "Power Points" used to determine post-season assignments, aren't more points given out for a higher certification level, and for how well that you did on the Part I exam? Don't you get 5 power-points for getting 97+% on the Part I exam, as opposed to only 1 power-point for getting 80%? If so, then it seems to me that having the Part I exam and answers early sureasheck could make a difference in Illinois.

You are correct.

Camron Rust

Jurassic Referee wrote
To attain a "certified" rating, on top of getting at least 85% on Part II, don't you also have to get at least 90% on the NFHS Part I exam?

You know, the Part I exam that's meaningless?🙂

And, for the "Power Points" used to determine post-season assignments, aren't more points given out for a higher certification level, and for how well that you did on the Part I exam? Don't you get 5 power-points for getting 97+% on the Part I exam, as opposed to only 1 power-point for getting 80%? If so, then it seems to me that having the Part I exam and answers early sureasheck could make a difference in Illinois.

Game. Set. and Match.

JRutledge

Jurassic Referee wrote
And, for the "Power Points" used to determine post-season assignments, aren't more points given out for a higher certification level, and for how well that you did on the Part I exam? Don't you get 5 power-points for getting 97+% on the Part I exam, as opposed to only 1 power-point for getting 80%? If so, then it seems to me that having the Part I exam and answers early sureasheck could make a difference in Illinois.

You are making a bigger deal then most of us here make of that power rating. That power rating is not what gets you advanced in the playoffs. The only way you can get a perfect score is if you work a State Final. The Power rating is not going to have you go deep into the playoffs; you will have to be observed by someone in the state office to accomplish this. Also, most officials already have the 5 points because there associations have gone over the test. Once again, this is an open test and it is common for official's associations and individuals go over the test in groups. I know from personal experience because in two of my sports I have advanced rather far and I was observed by the actual sports administrator before I got a chance at a Sectional and a 3rd Round playoff.

Peace

JRutledge

Camron Rust wrote
Game. Set. and Match.

BTW Camron, the person over the Official's Department (also the Football Administrator for the IHSA) said that it is OK for officials to go over the Part 1 Exam with fellow officials. He has said this for years in front of different official's associations at the IHSA Convention. They realize the test is open book and that is what happens during open book tests.

Peace

Dan_ref

I just love this time of year...leaves changing color, crisp mornings with frost on the lawn, gearing back up for another season. Now that the annual pre-season test pissing contest is in full bloom we can finally declare autumn is here. Let's all enjoy...

Ref_ Fred

Guys why does it matter, It's open book this year so why would anyone want it in advance? Just read the book!

Jurassic Referee

Ref_ Fred wrote
Guys why does it matter, It's open book this year so why would anyone want it in advance? Just read the book!

Oh, is it open book in all 50 states, Fred?

Just wondering....

Jurassic Referee

Whistles & Stripes wrote
Then that is something that Illinois will have to deal with woody.

Yup, same as Alaska.

JRutledge

Jurassic Referee wrote
Oh, is it open book in all 50 states, Fred?

Yes or no?

Who cares what all 50 states do. All 50 states do not take the Part 1 Exam at all. It is not the job of everyone to worry about that. If the people in a particular state violate their rules, then have their state take care of them. Not all rules apply to all states. If they did, then prostitution would not be legal in a little part of Nevada. I thought guys like you would be for State's rights. 😀

Peace

Jurassic Referee

JRutledge wrote
BTW Camron, the person over the Official's Department (also the Football Administrator for the IHSA) said that it is OK for officials to go over the Part 1 Exam with fellow officials.

Would the same person feel that it would be OK to go over the Part II exam and answers with fellow officials before the closed-book proctored exam?

WhistlesAndStripes

Jurassic Referee wrote
Would the same person feel that it would be OK to go over the Part II exam and answers with fellow officials before the closed-book proctored exam?

Different people prepare for tests in different ways. 😀

Jurassic Referee

Whistles & Stripes wrote
Different people prepare for tests in different ways. 😃

So....how do the Powers That Be in Alaska feel about your way, Bush?🙂

tomegun

I only know a little bit about the whole Bush thing, but I think it's funny because he isn't even trying to deny it. I guess you exposed him for who he is.

JRutledge

Jurassic Referee wrote
Would the same person feel that it would be OK to go over the Part II exam and answers with fellow officials before the closed-book proctored exam?

I do not know and I do not care. Guys in our state for years before the process was changed got a free ride to take the Part 2 Exam as compared to what many others since had to go through. I do not put that much stock in officiating tests and I know many that do not. You do, so this issue seems to be a bone of contention for you. For me it is not.

Peace

dentiff

Send me a copy also

jokeme

I would like to see questions/answers also and just to prevent a mass out break of ethics.. our group does not take the test, it is an on court test and each year I like to go over test so I am sure I am aware of all the rules and situations that might not be covered during our on-court test.

please sent to jokeme@hotmail.com

thanks,

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