GD Question(s)

LMan

Carbide Keyman wrote
Tim,

Why are you going back to basics ?

Doug

You'll have to read "Strikes and Outs" for the answer 😉

pdxblue

In 20 plus years of umpiring, I have seen a few norms come and go. One that I will be glad to see go is the GD stance! There are other great solutions to "staying stable" that don't require you to be 3' behind the catcher!!!

ozzy6900

pdxblue wrote
In 20 plus years of umpiring, I have seen a few norms come and go. One that I will be glad to see go is the GD stance! There are other great solutions to "staying stable" that don't require you to be 3' behind the catcher!!!

So what? No one says that you have to use the GD! I'll tell you what, since I went to the GD, I have a much better game and no where near as tired as before. And I too have over 20 years at the "dish".

Tim C

The "challenge" in people working the "Gerry Davis Stance System" is that few have real training.

We often see a ba$tardization of the stance and someone comments: "I work the GD."

They don't.

I see problems with working the stance when you are not a "top dog" (make that an MLB umpire) in that it is so far different than other stances it gives the "cheap seats" much fodder to use on you.

Being 3' or 4' back of the catcher is really not the problem. All of us that have used the stance for a number of years and have been trained know what we gain.

I am sure there were MLB umpirs that didn't want to give up the raft (hell, Durwood Merrill, a 'box' guy, gave Dale Scott crap about Dale working the slot -- "hey Dale, how can you see the outside corner from WAAAAAY over there?")

Times change and so do systems . . .

I am going back to basics mostly to eliminate the problem I have of getting out from behind the plate after a ball is hit AND to help eliminate perceptions that may hold my career back.

Regards,

pdxblue

ozzy6900 wrote
So what? No one says that you have to use the GD! I'll tell you what, since I went to the GD, I have a much better game and no where near as tired as before. And I too have over 20 years at the "dish".

Nope, nobody says I have to use the GD. I don't! 😀

BBS's are for voicing opinions. Get over it.

TussAgee11

Tim C wrote
I am going back to basics mostly to eliminate the problem I have of getting out from behind the plate after a ball is hit AND to help eliminate perceptions that may hold my career back.

I'm going to have to respectfully argue with you here. I have experiemented with GD and find I call a better game heel toe from the slot.

But I don't think your second reason for not using GD is faulty. I don't care what perceptions I may have that may hold my career as an umpire back. I'm not in it for ME. I'm in it for the players. I want to make the best calls I can and put myself in the best position to make those calls.

If GD looks lazy, but it helped me call a better game, I'd do it in a heartbeat. And the head hanchos wouldn probably not move me up, but so be it. I can live knowing I did what was best for the games I umpired.

If I'm off base or misread your comments Tim C, I apologize.

No hard feelings 🙂

Tim C

No offense taken . . .

As I have stated several times over the years on many umpire internet sites:

I am in umpiring for the power and the money.

"For the kids" doesn't move my meter . . .

As Toby Keith says: "Let's talk about me, I, me, me, me . . ."

pdxblue

Tim C wrote
No offense taken . . .

As I have stated several times over the years on many umpire internet sites:

I am in umpiring for the power and the money.

"For the kids" doesn't move my meter . . .

As Toby Keith says: "Let's talk about me, I, me, me, me . . ."

😮 🙂 😀 😎

SanDiegoSteve

Tim C wrote
No offense taken . . .

As I have stated several times over the years on many umpire internet sites:

I am in umpiring for the power and the money.

"For the kids" doesn't move my meter . . .

As Toby Keith says: "Let's talk about me, I, me, me, me . . ."

"I Want To Talk About Tee" - based on the lyrics of "I Want To Talk About Me" by Toby Keith:

We talk about your work how your boss is a jerk
We talk about your church and your head when it hurts
We talk about the troubles you've been having with your brother
About your daddy and your mother and your crazy ex-lover
We talk about your friends and the places that you've been
We talk about your skin and the dimples on your chin
The polish on your toes and the run in your hose
And God knows we're gonna talk about your clothes
You know talking about you makes me smile
But every once in awhile

I wanna talk about Tee
Wanna talk about I
Wanna talk about number one
Oh my me my
What I think, what I like, what I know, what I want, what I see
I like talking about you you you you, usually, but occassionally
I wanna talk about Tee
I wanna talk about Tee

We talk about your dreams and we talk about your schemes
Your high school team and your moisturizer creme
We talk about your nanna up in Muncie, Indiana
We talk about your grandma down in Alabama
We talk about your guys of every shape and size
The ones that you despise and the ones you idolize
We talk about your heart, about your brains and your smarts
And your medical charts and when you start
You know talking about you makes me grin
But every now and then

I wanna talk about Tee
Wanna talk about I
Wanna talk about number one
Oh my me my
What I think, what I like, what I know, what I want, what I see
I like talking about you you you you, usually, but occassionally
I wanna talk about Tee
I wanna talk about Tee

You you you you you you you you youyouyouyouyou
I wanna talk about Tee

I wanna talk about Tee
Wanna talk about I
Wanna talk about number one
Oh my me my
What I think, what I like, what I know, what I want, what I see
I like talking about you you you you, usually, but occassionally
I wanna talk about Tee
I wanna talk about Tee

😀

LMan

ha HA! SDS, that's one of the funniest things you have ever posted 😀

UMP25

With all the umpires around here, Tim, who have gone to the GD system, I'm surprised it's holding you back over there. I see many, many of my fellow NCAA umps using the GD system, and that includes my D-I through D-III peers.

rookieblue

We talk about your dreams and your self-advancement schemes,
Your cheesy high school teams and your SPF creams,
We talk rodent life forms, with ethics clearly de-formed,
About sitches that are abnorm, and weather that is too warm.

We talk blues in every guise, and every shape and size
The partners you despise and that one you bludgeoned and chained and threw into - er, uh, . . .
We talk 'bout quitting GD, and your latest CP,
And your useless TDs, with tertiary VD . . .
You know talking about you makes me grin
But every now and then

I wanna talk about Tee
Wanna talk about He
Wanna talk about Number One
Oh my oh me
What Tee thinks, what Tee likes, what Tee sees, and He sees, and He seeeeeeees . . .
I like talking about you you you you, usually, but occassionally
I wanna talk about Tee (Tee . . . Tee . . . Tee)
I wanna talk about Tee-ee-eeeeee

SanDiegoSteve

Wow, I humbley tip my hat!