jeffpea Nevedaref - Welmer only worked a 1st rd game (Washington v Utah St) - he was an alternate on the Washington v Illinois game. As for the chosen 10, here's my selections: Scott Thornley Dave Hall Bob Donato Tom Lopes Tom Eades Karl Hess Tony Greene Ed Corbett Tom O'Neill Pat Driscoll (alternate for all 3 games)
socalreff I would like to see Hicks and Thornley. I thought they both have been outstanding. Plus I'm biased toward Bruce, having learned a ton from him.
JugglingReferee biz wroteThat would be amazing to work the final 3 straight years, In recent years, Sifferman has worked 3 consecutive Super Bowls, and Buchko has worked 3 consecutive Grey Cups.
Raymond tnzebra wroteWhen will we find out who was selected? I'm pulling for Maxwell. When CBS puts the graphic on the screen at 6:07pm on Saturday.😃 Once they get notified that they have been selected, do they even know prior to arriving at the site which game they'll be working? I believe from hearing Donnee Gray speak they don't find out until they get there. One of my mentors worked in Dallas and Oakland the first 2 weekends, but all he said in his emails was "I'll be in Dallas/Oakland this weekend". I don't know and didn't ask if he knew which games he'd be working. Maybe Hank Nichols can log in and give us some insight??? 😮
tjones1 I heard the championship game has been assigned to: Billy Packer, Jim Nantz, and Billy Walton. On a related note, Billy Packer, Jim Nantz and Billy Walton will also be conducting a clinic on not what to do the exact same time the championship game is on. 😀
refTN Nevadaref wroteThe following officials are eligible to be selected for the Final Four: Bruce Hicks, David Hall, Jim Burr Bryan Kersey, Karl Hess, Ted Valentine Gary Maxwell, Mike Sanzere, Randy McCall Curtis Shaw, Gerry Pollard, Pat Driscoll Verne Harris, J.D. Collins, Hal Lusk Robert Donato, John Hughes, Raymond Perone David Libbey, Joseph Lindsey, Tom O'Neill John Higgins, Steve Skiles, Patrick Adams Richard Cartmell, Terry Wymer, John Cahill Timothy Higgins, Tom Lopes, Reggie Greenwood Scott Thornley, Tony Greene, Zelton D. Steed Ed Corbett, Ed Hightower, Tom Eades Who do you think will be the 10 chosen? (Note: Steve Welmer is not on the list.) Could somebody tell me who the youngest and oldest in this group are. Thanks
refTN tnzebra wroteWhen will we find out who was selected? I'm pulling for Maxwell. I'm pulling for Gary as well. I have talked to him a couple of times in the last couple of months and he seems unbelieveably intelligent when it comes to officiating basketball.
ShadowStripes The New Guy wroteHow many Final Fours has Burr worked? Burr has 15 Final 4s to his credit. 85,88,90,91,92,93,94,95,97,98,99,00,02,04,05 6 of those were championship games. 91,94,95,98,00,02
Rich BadNewsRef wroteWhen CBS puts the graphic on the screen at 6:07pm on Saturday.😃 Once they get notified that they have been selected, do they even know prior to arriving at the site which game they'll be working? I believe from hearing Donnee Gray speak they don't find out until they get there. One of my mentors worked in Dallas and Oakland the first 2 weekends, but all he said in his emails was "I'll be in Dallas/Oakland this weekend". I don't know and didn't ask if he knew which games he'd be working. Maybe Hank Nichols can log in and give us some insight??? :eek: They used to be in the dark until they arrived, but a chapter in John Feinstein's book on the Final Four (Last Dance) is on Nichols and the officials. Now the officials know whether they have a semifinal or a final (or are the standby) cause (1) officials not chosen for the final swould get disappointed and (2) they don't being the championship refs in until later in the weekend.
tomegun Rich is right from what I've been told. The refs that work on Saturday can't stick around either. They work their game and they have to leave the city. I forgot why, but maybe I will call Reggie and ask.
JRutledge tomegun wroteRich is right from what I've been told. The refs that work on Saturday can't stick around either. They work their game and they have to leave the city. I forgot why, but maybe I will call Reggie and ask. They have to leave or the NCAA does not pay for their accommodations? Peace
tomegun The way I was told, they have to leave. I think it has something to do with public contact and the fact that people would attempt to influence officials since there is so much money involved in these games. I know what you are thinking, "What influence would someone have after the game is over on Saturday?" I don't know exactly; it is just the story I got. I can't even say it is gospel. I will try to find out.
ChuckElias Tom, I remember Reggie saying that, as well. But I can't remember the "why" either. I'm going to email him after the tournament is all over. I'll let you ask about the "why" tho. 😉
JRutledge I kind of figured that was the reason. I just find that odd that someone has to completely leave at such a special event. I can understand that thinking. They have to do what they have to do I guess. Peace
Raymond tomegun wroteThe way I was told, they have to leave. I think it has something to do with public contact and the fact that people would attempt to influence officials since there is so much money involved in these games. I know what you are thinking, "What influence would someone have after the game is over on Saturday?" I don't know exactly; it is just the story I got. I can't even say it is gospel. I will try to find out. Donnee Gray (he's my JuCo supervisor) has said during his camps that the semi-final officials do have to leave, but he never did give us a reason why this is so.
Nevadaref ShadowStripes wroteBurr has 15 Final 4s to his credit. 85,88,90,91,92,93,94,95,97,98,99,00,02,04,05 6 of those were championship games. 91,94,95,98,00,02 Did you find this info online or in an NCAA encyclopedia or just call him up and ask? 🙂 Seriously, I am interested where you found it. Seems like a good source.
Nevadaref biz wroteThat would be amazing to work the final 3 straight years, but like I said I would be surprised...I believe he called the travel on Williams in the BC/NOVA game when imo Williams was clearly fouled, in fact he was dragged to the floor. Actually, biz, if you look at your own list you'll see that Dick Cartmell worked the championship game three years in a row 02, 03, and 04. I'd guess that it has happened before as well.