PIAA REF Player steals ball near half court. Dribbles in for an uncontested layup. Decides to throw ball off the back board, catches the ball and dunks it. What do you have?
IREFU2 Originally posted by PIAA REF Player steals ball near half court. Dribbles in for an uncontested layup. Decides to throw ball off the back board, catches the ball and dunks it. What do you have? A spectacular dunk!
Nate1224hoops Originally posted by IREFU2 Originally posted by PIAA REF Player steals ball near half court. Dribbles in for an uncontested layup. Decides to throw ball off the back board, catches the ball and dunks it. What do you have? A spectacular dunk! My thoughts exactly!! A HIGH FLYER!!
blindzebra For that part nothing. For the chin up, backboard slap, chest beat and yelling that this showboat will likely follow up the dunk with, I'll have a T for taunting.😉
ChuckElias Originally posted by PIAA REF How about the all crowd boo after calling a double dribble. What double dribble would that be, since there wasn't one in the play you described? And who cares about the all-crowd boo? 😕
Jurassic Referee Originally posted by PIAA REF How about the all crowd boo after calling a double dribble. Their partners might boo the official that called that one too.... 🙂
PIAA REF Maybe I have this play confused but I believe the dribble had ended when he stopped to throw the ball off the backboard. Then if he is the first to touch the ball off the backboard which since was not a shot it would be considered a dribble thus a dribble after giving up his dribble. Therefore Double Dribble.
JCrow Ever see that scene in the old Boris Karloff "Frankenstein" Movie where the angry villagers are chasing the monster with pitchforks and torches? All you could say to the fans after that call is, "FREEEEEEND.....FREEEEEND......GOOOOOOOOOOOOD....."
zebraman Originally posted by PIAA REF Maybe I have this play confused but I believe the dribble had ended when he stopped to throw the ball off the backboard. Then if he is the first to touch the ball off the backboard which since was not a shot it would be considered a dribble thus a dribble after giving up his dribble. Therefore Double Dribble. Only if he threw it off his opponents backboard. Tossing it off your own backboard is not a dribble. Z
assignmentmaker Originally posted by PIAA REF Maybe I have this play confused but I believe the dribble had ended when he stopped to throw the ball off the backboard. Then if he is the first to touch the ball off the backboard which since was not a shot it would be considered a dribble thus a dribble after giving up his dribble. Therefore Double Dribble. By convention, the ball off the backboard was a shot.
PIAA REF You can't say that a underhand toss hard off the backboard was a shot. It was intended as a self pass
ChuckElias Originally posted by PIAA REF You can't say that a underhand toss hard off the backboard was a shot.Maybe not. But by rule, you also can't call it a dribble. Therefore, no violation.
blindzebra Originally posted by PIAA REF You can't say that a underhand toss hard off the backboard was a shot. It was intended as a self pass The ball off your own backboard is NOT considered a dribble. Rule fundamentals: 19. A ball which touches the front face or edges of the backboard is treated the same as touching the floor inbounds, except that when the ball touches the thrower's backboard, it does not constitute a part of a dribble.
assignmentmaker Originally posted by PIAA REF You can't say that a underhand toss hard off the backboard was a shot. It was intended as a self pass You say it's spinach and the hell with it, eh? By convention . . . it's MightyLeafy. Kids'll eat it every time.
bob jenkins Originally posted by PIAA REF You can't say that a underhand toss hard off the backboard was a shot. It was intended as a self pass The NCAA book has this specific play (4-67.4 AR 44) -- legal. I seem to recall NFHS also having this play at one time, but the closest I find now is 4.15.4C(c) -- also legal.
Jurassic Referee Originally posted by PIAA REF You can't say that a underhand toss hard off the backboard was a shot. It was intended as a self pass Yup, we can say that. We would too. Unless you're a mind-reader, and I know that I'm not, there's no way to be completely sure that the play was intended to be a self-pass. Any doubt at all ----> no call.