[deleted] Basicly the shoulder can be open as I think everybody agrees on. What is a balk is when the shoulder faces home either in preliminary,during the set or after he is set and the opens it to first. Just remember if he starts closed he stays closed. Anything else there is no deception. Try to find a copy of "See a Balk, Call a Balk" it may make it easier. It's hard to explain without visual aids. [Edited by Michael Taylor on May 11th, 2001 at 04:11 PM]
Gre144 Originally posted by Michael Taylor Basicly teh shoulder can be open as I think everybody adrees on. What is a balk is when the shoulder faces home either in preliminary,during the set or after he is set and the opens it to first. Just remember if he starts closed he staya closed. Anything else there is no deception. Try to find a copy of "See a Balk, Call a Balk" it may make it easier. It's hard to explain without visual aids. Michael, I respectfully think that Mr. Jekins would disagree with you. Greg
badbamaump IF HE'S STATIONARY ON THE RUBBER AND TURNS HIS SHOULDER, BALK HIM! IF HE'S MOVING AND TURNS HIS SHOULDER, NO BALK! I don't know if I could explain this any easier. Will [Edited by badbamaump on May 11th, 2001 at 03:04 PM]
[deleted] If you are saying turning as he comes up set as in Mesina this is illegal in FED only. College or OBR it's fine. This is according to my state interpreter who was on the rules committee. Personnally I don't mess with it much unless somebody complains. It tough to expect pitchers to change what's legal everywhere else they pitch.
badbamaump Mike, I've heard tell that in some places they'll balk for the "Mussina" move.... I've never called it, never heard a coach say anything about it either. I've got enough crap to look for in a FED game without adding this to it! lol Will
Gre144 Originally posted by badbamaump IF HE'S STATIONARY ON THE RUBBER AND TURNS HIS SHOULDER, BALK HIM! IF HE'S MOVING AND TURNS HIS SHOULDER, NO BALK! I don't know if I could explain this any easier. Will [Edited by badbamaump on May 11th, 2001 at 03:04 PM] This is the explanation that I have been looking for!! Does everyone agree that the above quote is correct? If so, then I completely understand now. Thanks, Greg
[deleted] Originally posted by Gre144 Originally posted by badbamaump IF HE'S STATIONARY ON THE RUBBER AND TURNS HIS SHOULDER, BALK HIM! IF HE'S MOVING AND TURNS HIS SHOULDER, NO BALK! I don't know if I could explain this any easier. Will [Edited by badbamaump on May 11th, 2001 at 03:04 PM] This is the explanation that I have been looking for!! Does everyone agree that the above quote is correct? If so, then I completely understand now. Thanks, Greg Yes it's as good as any. I agree with him about having enough to watch in a FED game.