Nevadaref Originally posted by Snaqwells Originally posted by Lotto Originally posted by Snaqwells Team control must be established in the front court for the violation to occur. Not true. A1, inbounds in the backcourt, throws a bounce pass which first bounces in the frontcourt, then is caught by A2 in the backcourt. This is a violation, even though A never had control in the frontcourt. A1 has established team control by virtue of having player control. When the ball hits the frontcourt on a bounce pass, the ball gains fc status and team control is maintained by A. Thus, team control has now been established in the front court. Good job, Snaqwells. Lotto, you're also incorrect on this statement: "The ball never has frontcourt status here." JLC specified, "Before he picked it up it bounced once in his frontcourt." In NFHS play the ball has a status of its own if a player is not holding or dribbling it. 4-4-3
Lotto Originally posted by Nevadaref Lotto, you're also incorrect on this statement: "The ball never has frontcourt status here." JLC specified, "Before he picked it up it bounced once in his frontcourt." In NFHS play the ball has a status of its own if a player is not holding or dribbling it. 4-4-3 You're right...I misread the original play. (I thought *he* bounced the ball in the frontcourt, not *it* bounced in the frontcourt.)
BktBallRef Originally posted by Camron Rust Originally posted by BktBallRef Originally posted by Lotto Originally posted by Snaqwells Team control must be established in the front court for the violation to occur. Not true. A1, inbounds in the backcourt, throws a bounce pass which first bounces in the frontcourt, then is caught by A2 in the backcourt. This is a violation, even though A never had control in the frontcourt. No, no, no, no, no. This is not a BC violation. There was no team control when the ball bounced in the FC. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. This is a BC violation. A1 threw the ball from a location inbounds in the backcourt. If A1 threw the ball, he had player and team control on the throw. If you read the inbounds as a verb then A1 was what A2 caught. Hope A1 was not too heavy. My error. His description made it sound like a throw-in to me, which would seem like a legit interp to me.
hardwdref What if team A has possession, ball is tipped by B2 hit's A1's leg goes back court, A2 retrieve's it? or team A in control, both A2 & B2 deflect the ball backcourt, & A2 retrieves it? thanks!
BktBallRef In your first scenario, it's a violation. In the second, if both players' touched it simultaneously, I would call a violation. But I've never read a specific inerp on such a play.