ChuckElias It depends on level of play and also depends on the amount of time between the violation and the foul. If there's an appreciable amount of time, then you have to say that it's just too late to call the violation. But if it's a matter of a second or maybe even 2, I still would call the violation and ignore the contact.
Back In The Saddle If it's a lower level of play, if it's a quick and easy fix, and if it's going to be easy to sell, I'm gonna go with the fix (i.e., get it right) rather than continue with the foul.
Camron Rust Originally posted by Nevadaref Originally posted by Camron Rust I disagree with the conclusion of ignoring the foul. For many situations in the game, we could certainly have a discussion and find an uncalled violation that preceeded a foul. If no one blows the ball dead, you can't make it dead retroactively...even if it should have been. This was the argument of Roy Williams a couple of years ago during an NCAA tournament game when he was coaching Kansas. I believe that they were playing Arizona. Kirk Heinrich travelled. He jumped off the floor about two inches when intending to throw a pass, but did not throw the pass. He returned to the floor with the ball. There was a floor level camera which clearly showed this. The covering official, the T, had a poor angle and did not call the violation. The C from across the court saw it. About 3 seconds later Heinrich dribbled to the top of the Key and was fouled. The T whistled the foul. The C immediately when over to him and they conferred. They wiped out the foul and called the travel. Since this happened with about 30 seconds left in the first half, Williams was still mad about it when the TV reporter interviewed him before he went to the lockerroom. He said something very similar to what you wrote above. I think that is a different beast. One official SAW the violation and was waiting to see if is partner was going to call it. Delayed whistle is all that is. Going back and asking the official if such and such happened and then deciding it's a violation is quite different.