Slapping Backboard on block shot attempt?

tjchamp

Originally posted by jritchie

10.3.5b while a try is in flight etc...slap or strike the backboard intentionally OR STRIKE THE BACKBOARD OR CAUSE IT TO VIBRATE....TECHNICAL FOUL... so if you miss the ball and cause it to shake you got a "T" no question... no matter if all 10 can play above the rim

By changing the wording, you change the meaning. Rule 10.3.5b actually states: "While a try or tap is in flight or is touching the backboard or is in the basket or in the cylinder above the basket, intentionally slap or strike the backboard or cause the ring to vibrate." You have to intentionally slap or strike. When I go up for the block, my intention is to block the shot, not strike the backboard to cause it to vibrate.

Camron Rust

Originally posted by tjchamp

Originally posted by jritchie

10.3.5b while a try is in flight etc...slap or strike the backboard intentionally OR STRIKE THE BACKBOARD OR CAUSE IT TO VIBRATE....TECHNICAL FOUL... so if you miss the ball and cause it to shake you got a "T" no question... no matter if all 10 can play above the rim

By changing the wording, you change the meaning. Rule 10.3.5b actually states: "While a try or tap is in flight or is touching the backboard or is in the basket or in the cylinder above the basket, intentionally slap or strike the backboard or cause the ring to vibrate." You have to intentionally slap or strike. When I go up for the block, my intention is to block the shot, not strike the backboard to cause it to vibrate.

By leaving the wording exactly as it is, there are two competely valid ways to read the sentence. I've attempted to illistrate the two possible breakdowns of the sentence.

A player shall not

While
- a try or tap is in flight
- or is touching the backboard
- or is in the basket
- or in the cylinder above the basket
intentionally
- slap or strike the backboard
- or cause the ring to vibrate.

A player shall not

While
- a try or tap is in flight
- or is touching the backboard
- or is in the basket
- or in the cylinder above the basket
intentionally slap or strike the backboard
or cause the ring to vibrate.

As you can see, the adverb "intentionally" may be attached to one or both of the parts of the compound verb. I do beleive the accepted application is to apply it to both parts.

In an older version of the rule:

A player shall not
- Slap or strike either backboard
- or cause either ring to vibrate
While
- the ball is in flight during a try or tap
- or is touching the backboard
- or is on or in the basket
- or in the cylinder above the basket.

jritchie

can be taken two ways and should be illustrated to which way they want us to take it....that was my point of the rule though, it can be taken the other way as to say that "intentional" doesn't apply to the "making the ring vibrate part" and that is how i was reading it!!! Thanks for the discussion on the topic

bob jenkins

Originally posted by jritchie
can be taken two ways and should be illustrated to which way they want us to take it

It is "illustrated to which way they want us to take it" -- that's the purpose of 10.3.5

jritchie

it still could be taken 2 ways....does intentional go with cause ring to vibrate or not???? not arguing, just saying it could be taken that way....

Jurassic Referee

Originally posted by jritchie
it still could be taken 2 ways....does intentional go with cause ring to vibrate or not???? not arguing, just saying it could be taken that way....

As Bob pointed out, case book play 10.3.5COMMENT states "The purpose of the rule is to penalize INTENTIONAL CONTACT WITH THE BACKBOARD while a shot or try is involved....". The purpose and intent of this rule is to penalize the intentional contact only, no matter what the result of that contact may be.

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