What's on the belt?

Cordileran

Caught the Rockets/Pacers game tonight. Best seats I've ever had, 5th row. Sitting so close for the first time, I noticed that each official had something attached to their waist. It looked like an oversized beeper, but I couldn't tell what it was. Can anyone help me out?

BktBallRef

Precision Time. It stops the clock when the whistle is blown and allows the officials to manually start the clock, independently of the timer.

Grail

Are you implying that NBA Officials are wearing belts?

ace

the belt of the pants! not an acutal belt. Shoot- NBA officials got rid of the belts LONG before NCAA and HS did.

I keep trying to go to an NBA game. and defintly not to see the players. A bit off topic I got invited to join an NBA evaluator at a Spurs game if I was in San Antonio. Right now I can't justify a weekend trip there. But I thought that was pretty cool. NBA officials are held under LOTS of observation. Even WNBA. They have 2-3 hour pregame meetings over LUNCH. Not to mention watch countless footage of other teams and officials. The NBA handles thier officiating crews much like the NFL does it seem.

cmathews

Am I the only one that thinks these beepers would be useful in another 5 page thread on this board and others LOL 🙂 have a happy holiday season everyone 🙂

Snake~eyes

Beepers are used to call their moms to come pick them up when they're done.

CLAY

I would not attend an NBA game if you drove,paid for dinner, parking,concessions, and we sat on the team bench.

NBA basketball is a joke to the game in which the rules were written.

Woodee

Originally posted by ace
the belt of the pants! not an acutal belt. Shoot- NBA officials got rid of the belts LONG before NCAA and HS did.

I keep trying to go to an NBA game. and defintly not to see the players. A bit off topic I got invited to join an NBA evaluator at a Spurs game if I was in San Antonio. Right now I can't justify a weekend trip there. But I thought that was pretty cool. NBA officials are held under LOTS of observation. Even WNBA. They have 2-3 hour pregame meetings over LUNCH. Not to mention watch countless footage of other teams and officials. The NBA handles thier officiating crews much like the NFL does it seem.

ace,
I live in SA and would LOVE to attend a game and sit with an NBA evaluator. Hook me up!

BktBallRef

Originally posted by CLAY
I would not attend an NBA game if you drove,paid for dinner, parking,concessions, and we sat on the team bench.

NBA basketball is a joke to the game in which the rules were written.

I agree. Look at this stuff they do in the NBA.

1- The 3 point shot
2- The 3/10ths rule
3- The 30 second TO
4- The 3 man officiating system
5- The flex rotation
6- Limiting the number of players on the FT
7- V-neck shirts
8- Precision Time (Developed by a former NBA referee)
9- Red lights behind the backboards
10- Bouncing the ball on throw-ins

I hope none of this ever trickles down to high school ball. 😉

CLAY

good one, I was talking about the style of play.

Jay R

I think there is alot to learn from NBA refs. Nobody works harder than they do. They are constantly being evaluated and must work diligently on improving their skills.

The fact that they officiate a different game than what we see at the college and high school level does not take away from their ability. It's like the old adage that we hear on this board: do what your assignor wants. NBA officials DO what their assignors want.

TPS2859

If the NBA wants to play "street level" ball and ignor the basic rules of the game such as:

lets issue passports for as much traveling that goes on.

hockey clothing for all the pushing an shoving under the basket.

repelling ropes for all the hanging on the rims for no reason.

and on and on... This is all fine untill high school coaches and players feel that they should be able to play the same way. I think this is the point that CLAY is trying to make.

CLAY

my point, thank you TSP.

BktBallRef

Yeah but if you drove, paid for dinner, parking, concessions, and we sat on the team bench, I'd go. 🙂

tomegun

IMHO, NBA officials are the best officials in the world period. Not only do they have to be almost perfect mechanically, if they kick a rule they have to write a check worth about 3 high school games. They work around 15 days a month but it is an all day job for them. They meet, work out, log on to their site to look at plays (mandatory), ref the game and then go over the game. I'm not happy all the time about how the game is played but it is entertainment. Millions and millions of dollars are involved with every game and we can't think for one minute that any Joe Blow could be the official for this. It is a tough game to call. For instance, there is no NBA player that can really stop another NBA player defensively. That alone makes thing interesting when you think about help defense, pass/crash, hand checking and block/charge situations. As far as traveling, well I agree they should do something about that. For the people that think Shaq should get called for charging consider the fact that if you called the game the way it was meant to be called he would probably shoot 40 free throws a game! Even at 50 percent that is a lot of points from the line. So a game plan could be give it to Shaq and Malone for the first two quarters and after all of the other team's big men foul out then Mr. Bryant and Mr. Payton could have there way. It wouldn't even matter at that point whether Shaq fouled out of the game. Would that be any fun to watch. More importantly, would someone pay $25 for a nose bleed seat to see the stars foul out? They have to charge so much so they can pay KG his money. Did you know he probably makes $400,000 every two weeks after taxes? That is some serious dough!

dhodges007

Originally posted by ace
the belt of the pants! not an acutal belt. Shoot- NBA officials got rid of the belts LONG before NCAA and HS did.

I keep trying to go to an NBA game. and defintly not to see the players. A bit off topic I got invited to join an NBA evaluator at a Spurs game if I was in San Antonio. Right now I can't justify a weekend trip there. But I thought that was pretty cool. NBA officials are held under LOTS of observation. Even WNBA. They have 2-3 hour pregame meetings over LUNCH. Not to mention watch countless footage of other teams and officials. The NBA handles thier officiating crews much like the NFL does it seem.

I would pay for a trip like that in a heartbeat. I have the upmost respect and admiration for the NBA refs.

ace

For the longest time I said I wanted to officiate basketball and the NBA isnt basketball so I said I never want to officiate it. The more and more games I call the more and more I'm liking the sport. I get alot of critiques from older officials, some of whom have almost made it into the NBA. One even declined his invitation because his sons high school carrer was really starting to take off. I've learned quite a bit about what goes on in NBA officiating and I'd consider it an honor to join those ranks of one these days. I'm young enough to where I could pull it off I think :-D. even though I like to officiate womens basketball - i'd still would love to run out onto the floor 30 minutes before tip off infront of a sold out/packed Arena. You get that in college too... :sigh: I hope i can make it up the ranks one of these days.

ChuckElias

Originally posted by TPS2859
If the NBA wants to play "street level" ball and ignor the basic rules of the game such as:

lets issue passports for as much traveling that goes on.

While the traveling rule is almost the same as the NCAA/NF traveling rule, the NBA rules for establishing a pivot foot differ slightly (the "two-count" idea). The rule is called correctly, but it looks different from what most of us are used to calling.

hockey clothing for all the pushing an shoving under the basket.

The NBA has recognized that rough play had become a real problem around the league. In my opinion, they've worked very hard to clean up a lot of the banging that used to go on unchecked. I think the game has become more fun to watch in the last two or three seasons.

repelling ropes for all the hanging on the rims for no reason.

If there's no real danger to damaging the rims, then what's the problem with hanging on them? I agree that we don't want to see it in our games, but at that level, with that equipment and with the desire to be entertaining, I can see letting it go.

I was fortunate enough to go to camp this summer where a LOT of NBA officials were observers. Their insight and ability were unparalleled in my experience. If you don't like the game b/c of the way the rules are written, fine. But (again, in my opinion), you should not blame that on the job that the officials do.

I had the great fortune to work a minor pro league for a season, and believe me when I say that it was the most challenging level of ball I've ever participated in. Different from NCAA/Fed? Absolutely. But a GREAT experience. As always, just my opinion.

Jay R

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Originally posted by TPS2859
If the NBA wants to play "street level" ball and ignor the basic rules of the game such as:

lets issue passports for as much traveling that goes on.

While the traveling rule is almost the same as the NCAA/NF traveling rule, the NBA rules for establishing a pivot foot differ slightly (the "two-count" idea). The rule is called correctly, but it looks different from what most of us are used to calling.

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Chuck, Could you explain what is the difference in traveling.

BktBallRef

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Originally posted by TPS2859
If the NBA wants to play "street level" ball and ignor the basic rules of the game such as:

lets issue passports for as much traveling that goes on.

While the traveling rule is almost the same as the NCAA/NF traveling rule, the NBA rules for establishing a pivot foot differ slightly (the "two-count" idea). The rule is called correctly, but it looks different from what most of us are used to calling.

Even so, many traveling infractions are still ignored.

I once saw Dominque Wilkins, trapped in a double team near the top of the key. He pivoted over and over, until he was standing in the center circle when a timeout was finally granted.