NFHS 2017-18 Rules Changes

crosscountry55

BillyMac wrote
Breaking news. This just in. The NFHS has released two hand reporting guidelines and has indicated that three point field goal attempts will also be signaled by two hands. When a player attempts a field goal from behind the three point arc, the nearest official will signal with two hands at head height, showing two fingers on one hand, and one finger on the other.

Which finger on the hand with one? [emoji6]

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BillyMac

crosscountry55 wrote
Which finger on the hand with one?

It depends on what information you want to convey to the coaches, and fans.

Mark Padgett

BillyMac wrote
It depends on what information you want to convey to the coaches, and fans.

And also what information the fans want to convey to the players.

grunewar

Tues night, I did my first game with two-handed reporting.......I have work to do to feel comfortable. Most importantly for me, I took my time and thought about it (twas a Rec league).

Rooster

SC Official wrote
...with the box expanding down to the end line.

Nope. Read it again. Smiley face.

UNIgiantslayers

Our state allowed optional 2-hand reporting last year. I'm going to camp toward the end of June and can't wait to see if I can tell who was using it last year and who is new to it this year. One of my partners said he'd buy the first round if more than 5 people at camp have trouble with it. I'm thinking he'll be ponying up.

crosscountry55

UNIgiantslayers wrote
Our state allowed optional 2-hand reporting last year. I'm going to camp toward the end of June and can't wait to see if I can tell who was using it last year and who is new to it this year. One of my partners said he'd buy the first round if more than 5 people at camp have trouble with it. I'm thinking he'll be ponying up.

The issue with camp games (and summer ball, AAU, and lots of other off-season basketball) are all of the illegal numbers. I turn my hand sideways for digits 6 and greater (e.g. "7" = sideways 2). This will be tricky for officials and table personnel new to 2H reporting.

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UNIgiantslayers

crosscountry55 wrote
The issue with camp games (and summer ball, AAU, and lots of other off-season basketball) are all of the illegal numbers. I turn my hand sideways for digits 6 and greater (e.g. "7" = sideways 2). This will be tricky for officials and table personnel new to 2H reporting.

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That's what a guy I work with does too. During summer ball or AAU where I'm not being observed, I just yell it 3 times from the other end of the court and put the ball back in play😃

BillyMac

Connecticut uses 99% IAABO (not NFHS) mechanics.

I can't wait to see if:

1) Connecticut switches to two hand reporting.

2) Connecticut switches to orally stating numbers rather than numerals (as we currently do), i.e., orally state, "Twenty-three", instead of, "Two. Three".

bob jenkins

UNIgiantslayers wrote
That's what a guy I work with does too. During summer ball or AAU where I'm not being observed, I just yell it 3 times from the other end of the court and put the ball back in play😃

Unless it's a running clock, in which case I walk slowly over to the table and help the scorer write the foul in the correct box before slowly walking back to administer the throw-in.

Mregor

My only concern, and I'm not sure if someone already posted because I didn't read all 6 pages, I hope the coaches don't see this as a wasted opportunity like they are entitled to a freebie each game. Like taking a TO down by 12 with 0:30 remaining just because they can. No free shots. I know some coaches who will see it that way and some who would never consider it. I'd rather not stop a running clock for any reason.

Raymond

BillyMac wrote
Connecticut uses 99% IAABO (not NFHS) mechanics.

I can't wait to see if:

1) Connecticut switches to two hand reporting.

2) Connecticut switches to orally stating numbers rather than numerals (as we currently do), i.e., orally state, "Twenty-three", instead of, "Two. Three".

Connecticut wants you to say "Two-Three"?

When they tell you to pay your dues, do they say it will be "Five-Five dollars"?

BillyMac

Raymond wrote
Connecticut wants you to say "Two-Three"? When they tell you to pay your dues, do they say it will be "Five-Five dollars"?

Been that way for over thirty-five years. That's the way rookie officials are taught, and that's the way officials are evaluated.

Also, our annual board dues are One Two Five dollars.

Maybe things will change with the new two hand reporting, if we go in that direction using our IAABO mechanics.

JRutledge

Raymond wrote
Connecticut wants you to say "Two-Three"?

When they tell you to pay your dues, do they say it will be "Five-Five dollars"?

There was a time when it was recommended in many literature that is how you reported. That was the case when I started. Now that being said, I did it for years to slow me down and not say multiple syllables for numbers. Never really had a problem with that method either. But I do understand why those do not like it, but again it was the way it was taught and the table people never were confused. I know the point was to stay away from the "teen..." numbers because they were multiple syllables.

Peace

LRZ

BillyMac wrote
Also, our annual board dues are One Two Five dollars.

Wow (assuming the decimal point goes where I suspect it does). What do you get for that big chunk of cash? Wow, again.

BillyMac

LRZ wrote
Wow (assuming the decimal point goes where I suspect it does). What do you get for that big chunk of cash? Wow, again.

$125.00 is our fixed annual dues, no matter how many games you work, add to that a 7% fee based on our earnings.

BigCat

As long as numbers are being discussed...RIP 007

bob jenkins

BillyMac wrote
$125.00 is our fixed annual dues, no matter how many games you work, add to that a 7% fee based on our earnings.

Is that for the local association, the state association, any national (NFHS) membership?

Rich

Our annual dues are about that much, too, but they also include an NASO membership as our entire association belongs.

BillyMac

bob jenkins wrote
Is that for the local association, the state association, any national (NFHS) membership?

IAABO local, IAABO state, IAABO international, and CIAC (state interscholastic sports governing body) officials association. Connecticut basketball officials, 100% all IAABO, don't belong to the NFHS, in fact, if a basketball official doesn't work another NFHS sport, it's almost impossible to join the NFHS as a basketball official (Arbiter muddies the water).

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