NCAA Men's Tournament Officials (2017)

Raymond

big jake wrote
Kip, Breeding and Stephens on the First game today

On the alley oop foul that was changed to a two-shot foul. The call was right, but I don't like how Stephens came in and took over and signalled 2 shots instead of letting Kippinger signal the two shots since he's the one who called The foul.

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dahoopref

BadNewsRef wrote
On the alley oop foul that was changed to a two-shot foul. The call was right, but I don't like how Stephens came in and took over and signalled 2 shots instead of letting Kippinger signal the two shots since he's the one who called The foul.

Agree with this 100%. Bring information to the calling official and then let him decide the adjudication.

parker27

Stephens likes to be noticed, probably played a part in it. Very dramatic on calls when he doesn't have to be.

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Ky vs UNC

Higgins, Keith Kimble, Mike Reed

SAJ

BadNewsRef wrote
On the alley oop foul that was changed to a two-shot foul. The call was right, but I don't like how Stephens came in and took over and signalled 2 shots instead of letting Kippinger signal the two shots since he's the one who called The foul.

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Kippinger. Has a nice ring to it.

Anyways, with him and Higgins in the Elite 8 that makes two from the Husker state. Good work guys.

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Mike Eades, Jeff Anderson and Ron Groover on the SC Florida game

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That Jeff Anderson sure has a funny way of running

bucky

big jake wrote
That Jeff Anderson sure has a funny way of running

And his FT 10 second count mechanic isn't exactly a wrist flick either.

Camron Rust

big jake wrote
That Jeff Anderson sure has a funny way of running

It is as if he is trying to make it look like he is hustling. However, anytime there was a transition, he was the slowest one down the court despite being the one with the most motion. Running like that will not get you down the court faster.

refinks

When do the 10 officials for Final Four weekend get announced? Anybody wanna make predictions? I'm partial to Higgins and Kimble myself. Also wouldn't mind seeing Ted Valentine.

frezer11

Camron Rust wrote
It is as if he is trying to make it look like he is hustling. However, anytime there was a transition, he was the slowest one down the court despite being the one with the most motion. Running like that will not get you down the court faster.

I guess he's staying pretty loose doing High-knees all the time. Pretty confident if I had to bet on one official who isn't going to pull a hammy during the game that I'm going with him...

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refinks wrote
When do the 10 officials for Final Four weekend get announced? Anybody wanna make predictions? I'm partial to Higgins and Kimble myself. Also wouldn't mind seeing Ted Valentine.

I believe they will be announced as soon as tomorrow.

The ten officials who worked last year were: Mark Whitehead (retired), Tom Eades (injured?), Tony Padilla, Jeff Clark (was on controversial game), Roger Ayers, Mike Eades, Michael Stephens, Terry Wymer, John Higgins, Brian Dorsey (alternate/not working this year).

I would expect Roger Ayers, Mike Eades, Terry Wymer, Michael Stephens, and John Higgins as locks.

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With the game Higgins had this weekend I say he may be out

slick rick

What ever happened to Bolger?:eek:

Raymond

slick rick wrote
What ever happened to Bolger?:eek:

Final Four is outside of his work release dates.

SD Referee

parker27 wrote
Stephens likes to be noticed, probably played a part in it. Very dramatic on calls when he doesn't have to be.

I think if you take notice, you will see that a LOT of the guys doing the big games like to be noticed. Very dramatic signals, double & triple tweets of the whistle, calling a charge from the lead like you just got shot.

Those guys LOVE to be noticed. It's funny because the game isn't about them, but they think it is. When you start out officiating, you are told that if you aren't noticed it was a good game. Apparently as you rise up the ranks you try to be noticed as much as possible.

bucky

SD Referee wrote
I think if you take notice, you will see that a LOT of the guys doing the big games like to be noticed. Very dramatic signals, double & triple tweets of the whistle, calling a charge from the lead like you just got shot.

Those guys LOVE to be noticed. It's funny because the game isn't about them, but they think it is. When you start out officiating, you are told that if you aren't noticed it was a good game. Apparently as you rise up the ranks you try to be noticed as much as possible.

So true. Kettle/black situation at camps all the time.

slick rick

It should be the goal of every new official to get to this level!🙂

JRutledge

SD Referee wrote
I think if you take notice, you will see that a LOT of the guys doing the big games like to be noticed. Very dramatic signals, double & triple tweets of the whistle, calling a charge from the lead like you just got shot.

Those guys LOVE to be noticed. It's funny because the game isn't about them, but they think it is. When you start out officiating, you are told that if you aren't noticed it was a good game. Apparently as you rise up the ranks you try to be noticed as much as possible.

Wanting to be noticed or just their mechanics or style? There was a time before everyone became robots that they were a requirement to be a little more demonstrative. A lot of the guys working are from that era or started in the era. I know I have been doing this 20 years and many of those guys were doing it 5 and 10 years longer than me. And all I do is when I watch a old game from the 80s are calls that are more demonstrative when it is not even that necessary in today's standards. I am not sure that is wanting to be seen, but just how they have been and what was expected. Because they are good officials, no one has told them to change on some major scale. I know guys that look like they are asleep when they officiate and that is good in some situations, but not good in all situations.

Also I think there is this great myth about "not being noticed." Well John Higgins is about as laid back as anyone and he was noticed in a big way this past Sunday. He is not a guy that often even looks like he sells a call but every call he made was highlighted. I am not on his level at all, but I know when I am on certain games, the coaches and fans notice who I am or the crew. Even know where they saw you. You think a guy on national TV is not noticed? You think he can hide? I read an article either late last season or early in this season where Higgins was featured (and I believe it was posted here) and all it talked about was how people would see him in the airport or know he was on a game the night before. We are in the social media age where people can find out all kinds of things about you without lifting a finger and we think we are not going to get noticed? Not only are there sites dedicated to bashing officials, but every box score has the official's names listed as well. I just wish we would put this myth away because that might have been the case 20 or 25 years ago, but not today. Not when people are watching games and recognize the officials or know something about them. And that includes high school ball where now games can be seen with live streaming and show all your mistakes for ever. Just the fact that Higgins is kind of laid back but every call he made in the first half was examined and credited to him is evidence of how silly that stance is. I just wish we would stop thinking that we can hide from the public that is looking for anyone and everyone to blame for a lost but the way their team played in the game. And you can be accuse of the game being about the officials when you enforce rules that you are asked to enforce by everyone but the coaches when it goes against their teams. We cannot win most of the time.

Peace

Adam

slick rick wrote
It should be the goal of every new official to get to this level!🙂

Not in any way true. Your goals should have zero to do with whether you're noticed. A desire either way could negatively affect your calls.

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