sliding traveling

djelo3

Is there a limit as far as sliding on your back or front while diving after a loose ball then gaining possession of it? My partner called traveling when A1 dove after a loose ball...landed on his back and slid almost 6 or 7 ft but never rolled over to eithr side. I thought it was a legal play once he then passed it off.

JRutledge

Nope. They can slide as long as their momentum and they can stay inbounds. And a player can even roll if they are still in a momentum slide.

Peace

Kansas Ref

djelo3 wrote
Is there a limit as far as sliding on your back or front while diving after a loose ball then gaining possession of it? My partner called traveling when A1 dove after a loose ball...landed on his back and slid almost 6 or 7 ft but never rolled over to eithr side. I thought it was a legal play once he then passed it off.

*It always drives coaches, fans, and opposing team members wild when this occurs as they are predictably yelling "travelling" and left bewildered when the refs do not kill this play; moreover, a novice or uniformed ref could be persuaded to adjudicate incorrectly. Alas, Rule/Case play 4-44-5b provide clarity for us.

Rich

Similar note:

We had a player fumble a pass a couple of times as he was streaking through the lane and, wouldn't you know it, someone told me we were the only 3 people in the gym who didn't see the traveling.

Hmmm.

Raymond

djelo3 wrote
Is there a limit as far as sliding on your back or front while diving after a loose ball then gaining possession of it? My partner called traveling when A1 dove after a loose ball...landed on his back and slid almost 6 or 7 ft but never rolled over to eithr side. I thought it was a legal play once he then passed it off.

Did your partner say he called the travel b/c A1 slid too far?

so cal lurker

Rich wrote
Similar note:

We had a player fumble a pass a couple of times as he was streaking through the lane and, wouldn't you know it, someone told me we were the only 3 people in the gym who didn't see the traveling.

Hmmm.

Wait, is this the no-pants thread?:eek:

Rich

so cal lurker wrote
Wait, is this the no-pants thread?:eek:

Speaking of no pants, we had a streaker during a varsity game enough years ago that we were working 2-person. Male senior student, naked as the day he was born, ran from one corner of the gym across the floor and out the other corner.

Every time I go there that STILL comes up in conversation.

Welpe

Rich wrote
Similar note:

We had a player fumble a pass a couple of times as he was streaking through the lane and, wouldn't you know it, someone told me we were the only 3 people in the gym who didn't see the traveling.

Hmmm.

It's really fun when your partner reaches all the way from his area into the middle of yours to call that a travel and then chides you in post-game for not calling enough travels. 🙄

Rich

Welpe wrote
It's really fun when your partner reaches all the way from his area into the middle of yours to call that a travel and then chides you in post-game for not calling enough travels. :rolleyes:

Yup.

Game I was watching -- I saw a ball come out as a player fell to the floor but just before it would've been traveling. C across the court blew his whistle and the T/L had nothing. They didn't fix the C's error.

CMHCoachNRef

Rich wrote
Similar note:

We had a player fumble a pass a couple of times as he was streaking through the lane and, wouldn't you know it, someone told me we were the only 3 people in the gym who didn't see the traveling.

Hmmm.

I would like to see NFHS adopt the football "bobbling the ball" mechanic for such situations.

CMHCoachNRef

BadNewsRef wrote
Did your partner say he called the travel b/c A1 slid too far?

Well, of course he did!:rolleyes: I like to ask the coach in those situations (in which my partners know the rule 😃), "Coach, can you tell me what the distance is, in the rule book?" Cause, there is a distance (not actually in the rule book, but, I believe it would be about 106.5 feet).

This assumes a player would commence his dive at one corner of a 50x94 foot court and stop just prior to going out of bounds at the corner diagonal to the start of his dive.....and the co-efficient of friction does not stop him prior to reaching the corner...also assumes his own momentum carried him off the court (otherwise a violation could have been called) and he came back onto the court going at a very high rate of speed.

kelvinsmerli

Nope, Oops.

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LRZ

CMHCoachNRef wrote
I would like to see NFHS adopt the football "bobbling the ball" mechanic for such situations.

Use it anyway. For years, we used an unofficial signal for running the end line after a basket or FT; now it's an approved mechanic.

Rich

CMHCoachNRef wrote
I would like to see NFHS adopt the football "bobbling the ball" mechanic for such situations.

Used it there. Didn't matter. Fans aren't bright.

Mregor

Kansas Ref wrote
*It always drives coaches, fans, and opposing team members wild when this occurs as they are predictably yelling "travelling" and left bewildered when the refs do not kill this play;

That's because some ignorant ref the night before called it a travel. Like the partner I had Friday. Along with several other bs stuff like when he had a jump ball and I had a TO before the jump, he said No when I relayed that to him. Or like when he made the kid take off his tights because he only had one legged tights, or he reports foul and the number is not on floor so picks a kid and it's their 5th and I have to deal with the coach because he has no idea of who the foul is on, or ....

Get in, Get Done, Get Out.

Rich

Mregor wrote
That's because some ignorant ref the night before called it a travel. Like the partner I had Friday. Along with several other bs stuff like when he had a jump ball and I had a TO before the jump, he said No when I relayed that to him. Or like when he made the kid take off his tights because he only had one legged tights, or he reports foul and the number is not on floor so picks a kid and it's their 5th and I have to deal with the coach because he has no idea of who the foul is on, or ....

Get in, Get Done, Get Out.

On the timeout, just hit the whistle and enforce the timeout, saying, "timeout before the held ball." Sometimes guys like that you just have to steamroll. 🙂

RedAndWhiteRef

Had this exact thing happen in my game Friday night. Coach was all over me for it. All I could say was "That's not a travel, coach."

As long as you three (or two) know the rule literally nothing else matters.

Adam

CMHCoachNRef wrote
I would like to see NFHS adopt the football "bobbling the ball" mechanic for such situations.

That works great until C comes in from across the court with a whistle and the traveling signal.

jTheUmp

CMHCoachNRef wrote
Well, of course he did!:rolleyes: I like to ask the coach in those situations (in which my partners know the rule 😃), "Coach, can you tell me what the distance is, in the rule book?" Cause, there is a distance (not actually in the rule book, but, I believe it would be about 106.5 feet).

This assumes a player would commence his dive at one corner of a 50x94 foot court and stop just prior to going out of bounds at the corner diagonal to the start of his dive.....and the co-efficient of friction does not stop him prior to reaching the corner...also assumes his own momentum carried him off the court (otherwise a violation could have been called) and he came back onto the court going at a very high rate of speed.

Love it... I just wish I could condense this down enough to use it on a coach.

MechanicGuy

Adam wrote
That works great until C comes in from across the court with a whistle and the traveling signal.

I only use this "signal" when the play has ended and there is no danger of a partner doing that. I also usually only do it when I hear feedback in the air from fans/players/coaches about the non-whistle.