Pointing direction at tip

SD Referee

Adam wrote
Emulate their professionalism. Emulate their communication (although not the BS they have to accept from coaches). Emulate their ability to move to a spot that gives them a better view. This is a mechanics issue, though. Whether they do it really has no bearing on whether we should.

I frankly don't care on this issue. I do it, but I really couldn't tell you if my partners have. I could just as easily drop it if an assigner or other official I trust advised me to let it go.

That's how my captain's meeting became one sentence long.

Great post! Agree with you 100%. My captains meeting is short. They aren't listening anyway.

I point and I do it because I think the high school level players are getting dumber. I'm not sure they know which way they are going. Coming out of time outs, 9 out of 10 times, most teams don't even know who's ball it is.

I point to not have the teams start with a mess. If I was told to not do it, I would have no problem stopping.

ballgame99

I let the players assume their positions, and as I'm walking to the center I check with partners to make sure they are good to go, check with table to make sure they are ready to go, say "here we go", blow the whistle, bounce once, and toss. Pointing seems hokey to me.

IncorrectCall

What's the point in pointing?

SD Referee

IncorrectCall wrote
What's the point in pointing?

For me, it's to remind the teams which way they are going. Where I live, the kids here are clueless and they don't know or remember most of the time. Especially girls games.

Sounds like the kids in your areas are a little smarter and don't need the reminder.

Honestly, I could probably get away with not doing it, but I know I have had more than one occasion where the teams didn't know prior to me pointing.

Moosie74

This years IAABO disc has a jump ball segement where Tom Lopes says the referee checks off with their partners and indicates direction of play.

But unlike the other plays he points out the officials mistakes, he passes no comment on it.

It's weird sitting a room with officials who are getting dinged and praised on the same videos though.

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Moosie74

Rich wrote
I never blow my whistle when resuming on a free throw. I find that, well, weird.

I got dinged on it for not blowing my whistle in my floor exam. Done it ever since and switched states and still no one has never said not too.

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Rich

Moosie74 wrote
I got dinged on it for not blowing my whistle in my floor exam. Done it ever since and switched states and still no one has never said not too.

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Both IAABO states? I've never lived in an IAABO state.

BillyMac

ballgame99 wrote
I let the players assume their positions, and as I'm walking to the center I check with partners to make sure they are good to go, check with table to make sure they are ready to go, say "here we go", blow the whistle, bounce once, and toss. Pointing seems hokey to me.

OK, so you don't point, I've got no problem with that.

Nowhere in your post do you state that you check to see that the players are going in the right direction. You must be officiating some pretty smart players in don't have to check and you never run into problems, especially if you get to overtime.

Adam

IncorrectCall wrote
What's the point in pointing?

I think it's to bolster synergy.

Adam

BillyMac wrote
OK, so you don't point, I've got no problem with that.

Nowhere in your post do you state that you check to see that the players are going in the right direction. You must be officiating some pretty smart players in don't have to check and you never run into problems, especially if you get to overtime.

Pointing is going to do far less to prevent problems than ensuring the jumpers are each on the correct side. In all honesty, that's why I point, for myself. The kids aren't listening, so it's not for their benefit. My partners aren't paying attention to that, so it's not for them. The table.... please.

No, the only benefit that comes from it is that it's an audible reminder to myself to double check the positioning of the jumpers.

JRutledge

Adam wrote
Pointing is going to do far less to prevent problems than ensuring the jumpers are each on the correct side. In all honesty, that's why I point, for myself. The kids aren't listening, so it's not for their benefit. My partners aren't paying attention to that, so it's not for them. The table.... please.

No, the only benefit that comes from it is that it's an audible reminder to myself to double check the positioning of the jumpers.

This is actually why I do it and do not see myself stopping anytime soon.

Peace

BillyMac

Adam wrote
In all honesty, that's why I point, for myself. The kids aren't listening, so it's not for their benefit. My partners aren't paying attention to that, so it's not for them ... the only benefit that comes from it is that it's an audible reminder to myself to double check the positioning of the jumpers.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

crosscountry55

Moosie74 wrote
I got dinged on it for not blowing my whistle in my floor exam. Done it ever since and switched states and still no one has never said not too.

Rich wrote
Both IAABO states? I've never lived in an IAABO state.

For your sake, I hope you never do. With due regard to those who are stuck under IAABO's influence with no say in their fate, I find the organization to be a meaningless redundancy to other rightfully established organizations that are recognized authorities (namely NFHS and FIBA).

Billy had a post earlier in which he mentioned a group called "IAABO International." That's as self-aggrandizing as the term "World Series." IAABO's footprint is limited to the east coast, Colorado, Ontario, and a handful of overseas U.S. military installations.

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