Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mlancaster wroteHere's a question that came up at our association meeting recently. We had an IAABO rules guru, one of the best, bring this up.... Team A has the ball in their front court. The ball is deflected by team B and rolls into A's backcourt.... And rolls a while before A picks it up. Team A runs back and retrieves the ball near the free throw line. When does the 10 second count for backcourt violation start? When team A gathers the ball or when the ball first touches the backcourt? It was said the count starts as soon as the ball touches the backcourt because Team A still has team control of a ball inbounds, in their backcourt after the deflection. I have never seen anyone count in this situation.....until A picks up the ball. If they did it may help with the understanding that any foul by team A while the ball is rolling in the B/C is a team control foul. I normally would not start the count until the player from team A has control. I may have always been wrong..... I see nothing in the rules to support or deny this. Thoughts? Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. wroteCrosscountry: That is an excellent question. I will ask one of my friends that are still officiating college basketball. MTD, Sr. A former student of mine (he became an OhioHSAA basketball official when he took and passed my basketball officiating class many many years ago) and is now a Men's Div. I official told me that in the case of the OP the T is to use the Shot Clock for the new 10-Second Count. MTD, Sr.
referee99 Camron Rust wroteThat guru was correct. Team control continues in NFHS and NCAA rules after a deflection by the defense, the ball gains backcourt status the moment it touches the floor in the backcourt, and a team can not have control of the ball in the backcourt for more than 10 seconds. NCAA-W the new count in the backcourt does not start until the ball is touched. AR 211.
bob jenkins referee99 wroteNCAA-W the new count in the backcourt does not start until the ball is touched. AR 211. I think you mean AR 221, and that's a different play (starting from a throw-in) from the OP (starting from the ball in-bounds)
Raymond bob jenkins wroteI think you mean AR 221, and that's a different play (starting from a throw-in) from the OP (starting from the ball in-bounds) Uh oh, I hope this doesn't lead us down a familiar road. 😮
BigCat BadNewsRef wroteUh oh, I hope this doesn't lead us down a familiar road. :eek: That was FUNNY...
SC Official BadNewsRef wroteUh oh, I hope this doesn't lead us down a familiar road. :eek: BigCat wroteThat was FUNNY... Guilty as charged. 😛
crosscountry55 Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. wroteA former student of mine (he became an OhioHSAA basketball official when he took and passed my basketball officiating class many many years ago) and is now a Men's Div. I official told me that in the case of the OP the T is to use the Shot Clock for the new 10-Second Count. MTD, Sr. Thanks, Mark! Great inside info. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Raymond crosscountry55 wroteThanks, Mark! Great inside info. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Inside info? Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk
crosscountry55 BadNewsRef wroteInside info? I meant from a knowledgeable source. Not truly "inside" information, I guess. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Raymond crosscountry55 wroteI meant from a knowledgeable source. Not truly "inside" information, I guess. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm pretty sure you have personal contact with a handful knowledgeable sources. [emoji41] Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk