Bulls/Cavs Last Second No Call (Video 2/2)

[NNJOfficial]

For those that watched today's Bulls/Cavs game, I thought the penultimate play in which LeBron drives to the basket and initiates contact with Noah was a solid no-call. Noah beats LeBron to the spot, jumps vertically and the contact is caused by LeBron driving into his body. The announcers disagreed and where vehement that LeBron should be shooting two.

By the way, Noah was a secondary defender and inside the RA when he left the floor, so if he had remained on the floor and caused contact I would agree that it would be a block.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by NNJOfficial

For those that watched today's Bulls/Cavs game, I thought the penultimate play in which LeBron drives to the basket and initiates contact with Noah was a solid no-call. Noah beats LeBron to the spot, jumps vertically and the contact is caused by LeBron driving into his body. The announcers disagreed and where vehement that LeBron should be shooting two.

By the way, Noah was a secondary defender and inside the RA when he left the floor, so if he had remained on the floor and caused contact I would agree that it would be a block.

Thoughts?

Great no call. I love all the fans screaming bloody murder on Twitter.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by NNJOfficial

By the way, Noah was a secondary defender and inside the RA when he left the floor, so if he had remained on the floor and caused contact I would agree that it would be a block.

Thoughts?

I'm not sure jumping negates the RA responsibility for secondary defenders.

Originally Posted by deecee

I'm not sure jumping negates the RA responsibility for secondary defenders.

The RA exists for defenders who are trying to draw a charge from a player who received a pass or started a drive outside the LDB. Noah is jumping to block a shot, thus the RA does not apply and he cannot be called for an RA blocking foul.

[APG]

Originally Posted by deecee

I'm not sure jumping negates the RA responsibility for secondary defenders.

RA is not in play if a secondary defender alights in a attempt to block the shot.

[NNJOfficial]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Great no call. I love all the fans screaming bloody murder on Twitter.

Well LeBron made the game winning shot, so the no-call didn't likely change the outcome of the game, so not sure why Cavs fans would be upset. If you're a bulls fan I suppose you could argue that if LBJ gets the call and shoots free throws the Bulls can call time and advance the ball with 1.5 on the clock...

[tmagan]

Van Gundy is right, you cannot allow teams to go to their benches with a review in the last two minutes of the fourth quarter.

Originally Posted by tmagan

Van Gundy is right, you cannot allow teams to go to their benches with a review in the last two minutes of the fourth quarter.

Why not?

Here's the OP play: Streamable - simple video sharing

[NNJOfficial]

Originally Posted by tmagan

Van Gundy is right, you cannot allow teams to go to their benches with a review in the last two minutes of the fourth quarter.

I like and respect Van Gundy for his knowledge of the game, but I disagree with his complaint in this instance. First of all, huddling while the play is reviewed is not currently prohibited by rule, so lobby to change/clarify the rule if you don't like it. Secondly, the "extra timeout" has been occurring since the review was instituted, and happens all the time while plays are reviewed in close, game-ending situations. Making it seem like the Cavs are getting some special advantage in this instance is misleading. Lastly, the time on the clock was clearly incorrect, so the review was clearly warranted to correct that error. Change the rule to keep the players on the floor (not that this will really stop them from running a play), but until then it is what it is.

Originally Posted by NNJOfficial

I like and respect Van Gundy for his knowledge of the game, but I disagree with his complaint in this instance. First of all, huddling while the play is reviewed is not currently prohibited by rule, so lobby to change/clarify the rule if you don't like it. Secondly, the "extra timeout" has been occurring since the review was instituted, and happens all the time while plays are reviewed in close, game-ending situations. Making it seem like the Cavs are getting some special advantage in this instance is misleading. Lastly, the time on the clock was clearly incorrect, so the review was clearly warranted to correct that error. Change the rule to keep the players on the floor (not that this will really stop them from running a play), but until then it is what it is.

Not to mention it was actually Tom Thibodeau asking for the review.

[Jay R]

Originally Posted by NNJOfficial

For those that watched today's Bulls/Cavs game, I thought the penultimate play in which LeBron drives to the basket and initiates contact with Noah was a solid no-call. Noah beats LeBron to the spot, jumps vertically and the contact is caused by LeBron driving into his body. The announcers disagreed and where vehement that LeBron should be shooting two.

By the way, Noah was a secondary defender and inside the RA when he left the floor, so if he had remained on the floor and caused contact I would agree that it would be a block.

Thoughts?

According to the NBA report, it was ruled incorrect as Noah jumped towards James.

[grunewar]

When I saw the title of this thread I thought it was going to be a discussion about Lebron tossing the defender to the side so he could make room for the last shot.....which he just got off.......

[LuksKasabian]

Originally Posted by AremRed

The RA exists for defenders who are trying to draw a charge from a player who received a pass or started a drive outside the LDB. Noah is jumping to block a shot, thus the RA does not apply and he cannot be called for an RA blocking foul.

Hello! Can you please tell me what do "RA" and "LDB" acronyms stand for?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by LuksKasabian

Hello! Can you please tell me what do "RA" and "LDB" acronyms stand for?

Restricted Area (the newer rule that deals with the little arc painted around the rim.)

Lower Defensive Block (a defined area around the basket that plays into when the RA is relevant and when it is not in some rule sets.)