More NBA traveling...

[Pantherdreams]

NBA travelling is problematic to discuss for 3 reasons:

1) Notable rule differences. PIvot feet (and movement of) are not ruled and regulated the same as NFHS and FIBA. So while there are a lot of uncalled travels some of those are uncalled because the NBA rules set says its not and/creates more too close to tell situations.

2) Much like the NCAA experience we are starting to see NBA only wants to get the ones that are clearly obvious, in contested matchups and that gain an immediate advantage they wouldn't have gotten without one.

3) NBA officials like to work too. Unless they meet and talk about it and decide in all games regular season and playoffs to call more of these they are better off not calling to be consistent.


In terms of traveling in general I think that if the NCAA and other sports leagues can get past the idea of nobody wants to see you shoot 30 free throws/ 30 travelling calls. I think the travel call actually cleans up a lot of the stuff in the game people see as wrong with it. Defenders don't need to be as physical if they know players can't be as explosive or run away. Offense needs to have better footwork and better footwork I'm assuming would translate to time on footwork translating to a dribble, shot etc leading to better skilled players. Maybe thats naieve.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

2) Much like the NCAA experience we are starting to see NBA only wants to get the ones that are clearly obvious, in contested matchups and that gain an immediate advantage they wouldn't have gotten without one.

Those are often the ones missed.

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

In terms of traveling in general I think that if the NCAA and other sports leagues can get past the idea of nobody wants to see you shoot 30 free throws/ 30 travelling calls. I think the travel call actually cleans up a lot of the stuff in the game people see as wrong with it. Defenders don't need to be as physical if they know players can't be as explosive or run away. Offense needs to have better footwork and better footwork I'm assuming would translate to time on footwork translating to a dribble, shot etc leading to better skilled players. Maybe thats naieve.

Just like any calls, the players will adjust. It will never get to 30 travels (or 30 FTs) if it just gets called consistently. It only gets to 30 in some games if you have some officials not calling it and others calling it. The teams and player will, in a little time, adjust their play to what gets called, if it is called consistently. If not, the players will not know, from game to game, what is or is not legal.

And, to that point, it will NEVER be consistently called if the "expectation" of what should be called is not what the rules define. Either call it by what the rules specify OR change the rules to match what is really wanted.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by camron rust

...it will never be consistently called if the "expectation" of what should be called is not what the rules define.

+1

[potato]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Those are often the ones missed.

You can see alot of Kyrie Irving's contested layups are actually travel, but refs are focusing on defensive contacts rather than offensive footworks, unless the refs split the task like dude you watch the offense i watch the defense, it's hard for 1 ref to pay so much attention on something so quick like footwork & lose focus on contacts.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

...1) Notable rule differences. PIvot feet (and movement of) are not ruled and regulated the same as NFHS and FIBA. So while there are a lot of uncalled travels some of those are uncalled because the NBA rules set says its not and/creates more too close to tell situations.
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This is the only thing that bothers me about some people that constantly attack the NBA about how they call or don't call traveling violations. The rules are not the same as college and lower.

And don't forget that the NBA, like all professional leagues, are businesses. They are there to make money. They are not there to uphold the integrity of the game. Heck, you can probably say that about the college game too. High School? Probably not. But as long as it's still entertaining (aka "making money") then don't expect any big changes.