The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 20, 2015, 11:26pm
Often wrong never n doubt
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 737
New Orleans Pelicans vs GSW Game 2 Block/Charge (Video)

Approx 3:10 remaining in the 3rd.

Thank you.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 08:56am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,050
Looked like a good call to me. Defender was there. The announcer's comment was that the defender was still moving. Since Davis wasn't airborne, he can be moving as long as he gets to the spot first.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:59pm
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bkHMzaSN6U

__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:17pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: In the offseason.
Posts: 12,260
Block...never got into the path and was moving towards the opponent at the time of contact.
__________________
Owner/Developer of RefTown.com
Commissioner, Portland Basketball Officials Association
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:38pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 8,033
I have a block too - he never stops moving left and into the dribbler. I see no LGP here ever.
__________________
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'”

West Houston Mike
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 03:58pm
Stubborn Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,517
Throw in another vote for "block"
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 07:47pm
certified Hot Mom tester
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: only in my own mind, such as it is
Posts: 12,918
H&R couldn't be a move obvious block.
__________________
Yom HaShoah
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 07:51pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 276
Get the first foul

I know its the NBA so this logic probably doesn't apply but if the ref had called the foul by Wht 9 as Blk 1 was dribbling into the lane then the block/charge debate would be nonexistant. Call it a hand check or a hold but the contact by #9 causes the loose ball that put the offensive team at a disadvantage by limiting the dribblers movements, preventing him from taking his path to the goal, and almost resulted in a turn over.

This is why we should always get the first foul. It will not only help control the game but in many cases, just like this one, the offense is unfairly punished when they get called for the foul that follows.
__________________
Its not enough to know the rules and apply them correctly. You must know how to explain it to others!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 08:57pm
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,843
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich1 View Post
I know its the NBA so this logic probably doesn't apply but if the ref had called the foul by Wht 9 as Blk 1 was dribbling into the lane then the block/charge debate would be nonexistant. Call it a hand check or a hold but the contact by #9 causes the loose ball that put the offensive team at a disadvantage by limiting the dribblers movements, preventing him from taking his path to the goal, and almost resulted in a turn over.

This is why we should always get the first foul. It will not only help control the game but in many cases, just like this one, the offense is unfairly punished when they get called for the foul that follows.
Yes, I think a late whistle once he lost the ball wouldn't have been a bad call.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 22, 2015, 12:18am
AremRed
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Charge from the slot's angle, block from the overhead view. Just goes to show you how poor of a view C/slot has of block/charge plays like this.

Like this play for example. Pretty clear block shown on the video screen but Breeding couldn't see the lateral movement from C. Now whether DeRosa actually had a whistle initially or made something up is another story...
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 22, 2015, 12:44am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 327
Quote:
Originally Posted by AremRed View Post
Charge from the slot's angle, block from the overhead view. Just goes to show you how poor of a view C/slot has of block/charge plays like this.

Like this play for example. Pretty clear block shown on the video screen but Breeding couldn't see the lateral movement from C. Now whether DeRosa actually had a whistle initially or made something up is another story...
There's a lot weird going on on that play. Breeding has no fist in the air and seemed really hesitant to make any call.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 22, 2015, 11:12am
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by MechanicGuy View Post
There's a lot weird going on on that play. Breeding has no fist in the air and seemed really hesitant to make any call.
He was hesistant cause he heard DeRosa's (trail) whistle...and wanted to avoid a blarge....but DeRosa had a hit by the backside defender before his "charge"...which is fortunate. The play was absolutely a block.
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 22, 2015, 11:15am
Often wrong never n doubt
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 737
Quote:
Originally Posted by AremRed View Post
Charge from the slot's angle, block from the overhead view. Just goes to show you how poor of a view C/slot has of block/charge plays like this.

Like this play for example. Pretty clear block shown on the video screen but Breeding couldn't see the lateral movement from C. Now whether DeRosa actually had a whistle initially or made something up is another story...

This is why I thought it was interesting. Watching it live I didn't think much about it but when shown from the overhead the view was much different.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 22, 2015, 01:33pm
AremRed
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by APG View Post
He was hesistant cause he heard DeRosa's (trail) whistle...and wanted to avoid a blarge....but DeRosa had a hit by the backside defender before his "charge"...which is fortunate. The play was absolutely a block.
If you watch the video Breeding says he did not hear DeRosa's whistle. And DeRosa didn't have a fist or any body language signaling he had a foul.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 22, 2015, 01:46pm
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by AremRed View Post
If you watch the video Breeding says he did not hear DeRosa's whistle. And DeRosa didn't have a fist or any body language signaling he had a foul.
DeRosa does go up with a fist...you then can see the slot official looking at DeRosa...hence the hesitation.
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Block/Charge? (Video) SCalScoreKeeper Basketball 21 Mon Mar 23, 2015 02:19pm
Another Block/Charge (Video) IUgrad92 Basketball 21 Tue Feb 10, 2015 03:58pm
Block or Charge? (Video) Freddy Basketball 16 Wed Feb 12, 2014 05:00pm
Block/Charge video ballgame99 Basketball 27 Sat Aug 31, 2013 09:51am
Block/charge video bainsey Basketball 69 Thu Feb 14, 2013 02:23am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:04pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1