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SCalScoreKeeper Mon Mar 23, 2015 07:01pm

NCAA-W: Princeton vs Maryland Block/Charge No Call (Video)
 
Can someone pull the no call on a block/charge at 9:15 2nd half in the Maryland/Princeton game?

APG Thu Mar 26, 2015 05:18am

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Raymond Thu Mar 26, 2015 05:35am

Lead was in position to see the play and the level of contact.

ballgame99 Thu Mar 26, 2015 07:27am

What was the gold coach griping about there? It was either a PC or nothing. Impossible to tell from that angle if the contact was significant enough, but based on the defender falling down not looking overly embellished it LOOKS like a PC.

bballref3966 Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:40am

I have no idea with this angle what the degree of contact was.

Brenda Frese is one of the more vocal coaches in the women's game.

mutantducky Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:06am

yeah to hard to tell if there was a push-off with the arm too.

JRutledge Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:36pm

Hard to tell anything. All I know that is the Lead was in a great position. And this play in NCAAW is all her call to make.

Peace

Rich Thu Mar 26, 2015 01:21pm

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Originally Posted by bballref3966 (Post 959220)
I have no idea with this angle what the degree of contact was.

Brenda Frese is one of the more vocal coaches in the women's game.

It's one of those where you root for the L to turn and whack the coach, even though you know she won't.

AremRed Thu Mar 26, 2015 02:20pm

PC. If you don't call the PC call the travel. If you call neither then whack the coach when she claps at you.

Rich Thu Mar 26, 2015 02:21pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 959234)
PC. If you don't call the PC call the travel. If you call neither then whack the coach when she claps at you.

I'm not sure she actually traveled, though. Looked like one foot held a spot.

One of my technical fouls this season involved a coach clapping at me.

AremRed Thu Mar 26, 2015 02:25pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 959236)
I'm not sure she actually traveled, though. Looked like one foot held a spot.

One of my technical fouls this season involved a coach clapping at me.

Good job taking care of business! I think her left is the pivot and she picks it up. So when she passes after putting her pivot down I'm calling a travel. But I hope I would have called the PC first. :D

Raymond Thu Mar 26, 2015 02:34pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 959237)
Good job taking care of business! I think her left is the pivot and she picks it up. So when she passes instead of shoots I'm calling a travel. ...

Why does that make a difference?

AremRed Thu Mar 26, 2015 02:39pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 959239)
Why does that make a difference?

I meant to say the pivot comes down before she passes or shoots, I'll edit my post. Travel for me.

Camron Rust Thu Mar 26, 2015 04:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 959227)
Hard to tell anything. All I know that is the Lead was in a great position. And this play in NCAAW is all her call to make.

Peace

Yep. I can not argue any point from what is in the vice aside from seeing that the leeward was in perfect position.

wyo96 Thu Mar 26, 2015 06:01pm

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While I agree that the "L" was right there, they way the play developed, she ended up a little too close and straight lined at the moment of contact. If you pause the video, "L", A1, and B1 all line up.

As the play developed, hard for her to be in better position, just one of those times where the "L" ended up with less than an optimal look.

From up in the bleachers where the video is shot, I have a PC.

Camron Rust Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:15pm

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Originally Posted by wyo96 (Post 959263)
While I agree that the "L" was right there, they way the play developed, she ended up a little too close and straight lined at the moment of contact. If you pause the video, "L", A1, and B1 all line up.

As the play developed, hard for her to be in better position, just one of those times where the "L" ended up with less than an optimal look.

From up in the bleachers where the video is shot, I have a PC.

At no time were the three ever in a straight line in this video. In may not have been the most ideal angle but it was plenty good enough.

Pantherdreams Fri Mar 27, 2015 07:04am

For those recommending T here. What are you seeing on the video (I'm not reading lips or inserting magic words) that is T worthy?

michblue Fri Mar 27, 2015 07:37am

Is the defender OOB by chance? It looked like her left foot was OOB which would be a block. I can live with the no call. And agree with some other comments, I saw nothing in the video that leads me to T ing the Maryland coach

Rich Fri Mar 27, 2015 07:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams (Post 959280)
For those recommending T here. What are you seeing on the video (I'm not reading lips or inserting magic words) that is T worthy?

I'm not recommending it -- I would just like to see it. A coach that actually benefits from a no-call bitching just irks me.

JugglingReferee Fri Mar 27, 2015 07:55am

The yellow coach begins to complain of what she believes to be a missed blocking foul upon contact that, if called, is a travel or a PC.

I hate those and have a shorter leash.

MD Longhorn Fri Mar 27, 2015 09:05am

Bad angle for us, like others have said. Slowing it down it appears possible that all the contact was actually ball and not body.


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