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Raymond Thu Mar 19, 2015 09:44pm
Wofford/Arkansas (Video 3/3)
 
Wow, that was something completely different. You'll see.

Then the ruling.

Rich Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:40pm
Video: Wofford/ Arkansas
 
8:53 second half. Two handed dunk followed by a two haded slap of the backboard. Very shocked no technical foul was called.

Raymond Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:17pm
http://deadspin.com/the-arkansas-ben...ium=socialflow

AremRed Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:28pm
Reminds me of this play from a couple years ago.

APG Fri Mar 20, 2015 06:48am
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 958319)
8:53 second half. Two handed dunk followed by a two haded slap of the backboard. Very shocked no technical foul was called.
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Raymond Fri Mar 20, 2015 08:03am
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 958319)
8:53 second half. Two handed dunk followed by a two haded slap of the backboard. Very shocked no technical foul was called.
My rule of thumb (meaning this is what I do), as long as they are not grasping the rim with one hand while slapping the backboard with the other, I have nothing. A 2 hand slap like this one would get nothing from me.

Raymond Fri Mar 20, 2015 08:12am
As far as the shoe incident, the rule book specifically speaks of team followers (fans, bands, cheerleaders, and mascots) being forbidden from throwing objects on the floor, 10-2-8c, but nothing about benches or team members.

10-4-2h could conceivably be used to call a Class B technical for "preventing continuous play". However, there is no basis in the rule 4-10-1 or -2 that allows a DOG warning for the situation.

bballref3966 Fri Mar 20, 2015 08:29am
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 958348)
However, there is no basis in the rule 4-10-1 or -2 that allows a DOG warning for the situation.
4-10-1c: Delaying the game by preventing the ball from being prompt made live or by preventing continuous play, such as but not limited to, followers or bench personnel entering the playing court before player activity has been terminated.

You don't think this could be used to justify a DOG warning?

Adam Fri Mar 20, 2015 08:36am
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Originally Posted by bballref3966 (Post 958351)
4-10-1c: Delaying the game by preventing the ball from being prompt made live or by preventing continuous play, such as but not limited to, followers or bench personnel entering the playing court before player activity has been terminated.

You don't think this could be used to justify a DOG warning?
No, it could be used to justify a DOG technical foul, but not a warning. The warnings are limited to the 4 specified events. Issue a warning here, and then when that team breaks the throw in plane, you have to call a T.

Raymond Fri Mar 20, 2015 08:48am
Quote:
Originally Posted by bballref3966 (Post 958351)
4-10-1c: Delaying the game by preventing the ball from being prompt made live or by preventing continuous play, such as but not limited to, followers or bench personnel entering the playing court before player activity has been terminated.

You don't think this could be used to justify a DOG warning?
The rule specifically states what warnings are allowed, and nothing from those listed come close to this situation.

Raymond Fri Mar 20, 2015 08:49am
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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 958355)
No, it could be used to justify a DOG technical foul, but not a warning. The warnings are limited to the 4 specified events. Issue a warning here, and then when that team breaks the throw in plane, you have to call a T.
In NCAA-Men, each type of warning is separate. The same infraction has to occur again in order for it to be a technical. You give a warning here, you can only T up if someone else throws an object on the floor.

Camron Rust Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:18am
Quote:
Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 958348)
As far as the shoe incident, the rule book specifically speaks of team followers (fans, bands, cheerleaders, and mascots) being forbidden from throwing objects on the floor, 10-2-8c, but nothing about benches or team members.

10-4-2h could conceivably be used to call a Class B technical for "preventing continuous play". However, there is no basis in the rule 4-10-1 or -2 that allows a DOG warning for the situation.
And it wasn't like it was a random object. It was a piece of equipment that the player lost.

Adam Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:21am
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 958359)
In NCAA-Men, each type of warning is separate. The same infraction has to occur again in order for it to be a technical. You give a warning here, you can only T up if someone else throws an object on the floor.
Thanks, I knew there was a difference with NCAAM, I just couldn't remember what it was.


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