Ohio State vs VCU (Video 3/3)

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Under the HS ruleset which I limited my response to (and said so), the ball is dead immediately upon any player control foul. So unless the elbow happened after the ball passed through the basket I would wave it off.

Your first response was incorrect and so is your follow-up.
Under NFHS rules a player control foul MUST be a common foul. An intentional personal foul is not a common foul. Therefore, if the try is already released at the time of the intentional foul by the airborne shooter, then the basket would count.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Your first response was incorrect and so is your follow-up.
Under NFHS rules a player control foul MUST be a common foul. An intentional personal foul is not a common foul. Therefore, if the try is already released at the time of the intentional foul by the airborne shooter, then the basket would count.

You're right, of course. Per Camron's advice in this thread (post #25) I will be calling the excessive swinging of the elbows first, followed by a technical for excessive dead ball contact.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

You're right, of course. Per Camron's advice in this thread (post #25) I will be calling the excessive swinging of the elbows first, followed by a technical for excessive dead ball contact.

Now, I wasn't suggesting that you should do that, just that you could do that.

[Pantherdreams]

In real time my gut reaction was PC for 1 and 2.

Upon review and from multiple angles I could see why people could say block on #1. Depending on whether the 2nd step sideways to narrow his stance you consider him finalizing getting position or adjusting the position he already possesses.

I still think #2 is a PC. Contact happens before dribbler becomes a shooter so has no expectation of time and space and hits defense with feet on the ground.

Didn't see anything in real time for #3 so i could live with no call. Review got it right for #3.

[Nakht]

How would the penalty be enforced had the shot gone in on the play with the FF1? Does it nullify the basket?

When they went with the FF1 after review, did they resume play from the spot of the foul or from where the coach requested the timeout? Not the greatest with rule 11.

[OKREF]

I think PC on both, however both are really close.