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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:44pm
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ball, not elbow

Rebounding player, with the ball swings around and clobbers defensive player in the face with the ball (no elbow contact). Foul by rebounder, or nothing?
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:56pm
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This question has come up before ... can probably search threads to find the discussion. There's a video floating around too from an NBA game where Tim Duncan gets someone in the face with the ball on a drive.

For me, a lot would depend on intent. If this was a normal basketball move and the person happened to get hit, I'm playing on, no different than if someone got hit in the face with a pass.

But I'm not letting the player use the ball as a weapon, or to circumvent the rules on illegal contact by using the ball as a shield to buffer what would otherwise be illegal contact. If I felt that this was the case, I would have something (common or intentional).

If I have a foul, I'd have to cite 2-3, or could maybe stretch an interpretation from 4-24-2. Under NFHS, you could also have a violation if elbows were swung excessively.

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Old Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:36am
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This question has come up before ... can probably search threads to find the discussion. There's a video floating around too from an NBA game where Tim Duncan gets someone in the face with the ball on a drive.
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Old Mon Feb 23, 2015, 07:28am
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Ball To Opponent Contact ...

My NFHS opinion.

It can't be a personal foul, because there was no person to person contact between the swinger, and the opponent.

So, if it's a foul, it has to be a non-contact, live ball, technical foul for "Commit(ting) an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts or conduct such as ...".

Or, it's nothing.
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Old Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:09am
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If there's a foul, I'm going with a personal foul.

No, I probably can't "prove it" using the literal rules.
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Old Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:14am
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If there's a foul, I'm going with a personal foul.

No, I probably can't "prove it" using the literal rules.
And that's because being struck by the ball is nothing.
This is a legal play and the official shouldn't do anything other than consider stopping the game for an injured player.
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