Penn State / Maryland
 

Gonna cost the PSU coach some money.

http://pennstate.scout.com/story/151...-b1g-officials

Maybe someone can embed the play...timing is in the article. I saw it on TV last night as it happened...

The play is now in the article.

Not sure how, even if you didn't see the hold on Maryland, you can call a foul on the offensive player when he's clearly not in control of his balance nor even facing his opponent. At the very least, if you don't see the hold, make it a no call. That said, he should have seen it; he was paying way too much attention to the dribbler (who had no one in front of him) and not enough to the obvious matchup right in front of him. Trust your partners to take care of the drive to the basket.

That's an unfortunately awful call for that official. Could be career impacting, at least in the short term.

Goes to show how important game awareness is. And it was the dude's fifth foul. Yikes.

For the record, I think this is an outstanding and correct call.

Easy, he tripped the defender which sent the defender to the floor. The pull down came after the trip.

Good call IMO.

I've Changed My Mind, Every Official Forum Member's Prerogative ...
 

Tough call. Close call. The screener may have stepped on the foot of the defender, causing him to fall.

After further review, so do I.

I saw the PSU player step on the MD player's foot after that was mentioned (valid point), but it's still tough to wrap my head around calling a foul on PSU in this situation. Feet got tangled. Not unusual. I think the MD player could have kept his balance if he hadn't been hell bent on getting everything out of that hold that he could.

The lead signaled a foul, too. I wonder what he had? I suppose we'll never know since C sold it so quickly.

When First We Practice To Deceive (Sir Walter Scott)
 

Feet do get tangled in a basketball game, often with no fouls charged, but the fact the screener's foot ended up on top to the defender's foot means that the screener was too late getting to his spot, and thus, a blocking foul.

If it had been the other way around, the defender's foot on top of the screener's foot, then we could have a different call.

def not the worst call or anything like that. It was a tough one to officiate though. It looks like an illegal screen, but quite minor so a no call probably was in order. Then it appears the defender hooks his arm causing the players to fall.
Honestly, I don't know. I'd have gone with a no-call but if I was in that situation and see the players fall like that I think many refs would call a foul there. That would be very tough to hold the whistle.

Quite Minor Illegal Screen ???
 

This, "quite minor", "illegal screen", ended up with two players on the floor. If nothing illegal had happened, i.e. all incidental contact, then one could pass on this play, but once one decides that something illegal happened, even if it's a "quite minor", "illegal", action, then the resulting pile of players on the floor requires a whistle, and a call.

Great call.

Screener illegally tripped the defender and took him out of the play.

There is no doubt in my mind the ref would have passed on the illegal screen had the players not went down. Had the defender simply moved out of the way which he could have done, and played D it would have been a no-call. From what I see, the MD player is clearly grabbing the screener and causing the players to fall. Both of them are at fault here. Yeah, maybe a no-call would have been in order but like you say that doesn't really fall under the incidental variety.
It really was a no-win situation for the ref.
The Penn St coach needs to chill.

My compliments to the official. I watched the clip twice before I saw the trip. He had it all the way in real time. Good call.

And by the way coach, I don't believe that's the worst call you've ever seen.

Holy Toledo ...
 

You've got that right. At some point in his career he must have seen Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. officiate.

No-call for me.

Okay, okay. The more I'm reading and watching, the more I'm realizing that I'm probably wrong. I was probably over-influenced by the PSU-written article.

But I'm only going to say it once. ;)

If the Big 10 Coordinator of Officials sees it the same way all of you do, this "young" official who "doesn't have a feel for the game" will probably have a really nice schedule next year. Took a very patient whistle and big cajones to make that call.

I do agree that the play needs a whistle. I admit I probably would have missed the "step" and instead seen to hold. Talk about a lesson in seeing the whole play. Damn.

I met Kelly at camp last year. If his 100 D1 games in the past two years are any indication, I think he's probably gonna keep getting games. If not he can always go back to the D League and start working NBA.

just asking

would anyone call a double foul here?

No. The trip makes the ball is dead. The subsequent contact is ignored unless intentional or flagrant. It was neither.

This was a good call. Not sure what the article was talking about when it said he went away from the screen.

I absolutely love this call!

Nope, by rule, the ball is dead when the screener steps on the defender's foot. The grab is just a player protecting himself following illegal contact.

I hope the notice for Chamber's fine includes a short note that the official was absolutely correct.

I wish the Big Ten would come out and publicly announce the official made a great call. We see too many times when they announce an official got it wrong, or we get the "technically the right call" garbage. This is an amazing call.

You want to know when the conference agrees with the coach that a poor call was made but don't want to admit it?.....they fine the SCHOOL and not the COACH!

Per ESPN.com
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STATE COLLEGE, PA. -- The Big Ten Conference has fined Penn State $10,000 for comments made by head coach Patrick Chambers after a loss to Maryland on Saturday night.

Chambers was upset after an offensive foul was called on Nittany Lions center Jordan Dickerson with 1:50 left and Penn State trailing 70-68. Dickerson was trying to set a screen when he was pulled to the floor by Maryland forward Evan Smotrycz. It was Dickerson's fifth foul, so he left the game. Maryland won 76-73.

Chambers called it "the worst call that I've ever seen in my entire life". The Big Ten office says he violated the conference's sportsmanship policy.

It's standard practice in the Big Ten to (1) fine the school and (2) not comment on the call. This tells me absolutely NOTHING.

Great call! The coach made a comment about how the defender wasn't even involved in the play, etc. You are right coach, because he got taken out by a huge illegal screen!!

This is a great call. I only wish the B1G would come out and publicly laud the official for getting it right while shaming the coach and idiotic "analysts" in the process. But, I suppose that's too much to ask.

I like the call. You've got two bodies on the floor with no ability to participate in the next basketball play. Had to have a call and I like the call he made.