In or out?

[fullor30]

Had a kids game with a friend and I was trail, I called it out as simple geometry dictates that at that angle it would have had to hit corner for that trajectory. Partner disagreed more to the point it was his call. Our discussion became is corner out.

Any shot directly hitting flat surface on side straight on would come straight back

I feel its an easier call when ball takes an odd angle and heads towards OB.

Of course you could let ball continue OB and it's a moot point, but there could be rebounding possibilities.

Ironically after we had a our spirited discussion, the next period, as I was lead, it hit side of backboard and came straight back, followed by another try with same results. We both had a good laugh.

Couldn't find any rule supporting either side.

In the 'if it walks like a duck' file.

[NormanDale]

Had this same thing happened last night, we played on. Nobody said a word.

If someone had asked, I would have told them, it looked like it the side to me.


I think you can over analyze and officiate these situations.....Catch the big stuff. But it does make for good entertainment over my lunch hour.

[bainsey]

I say it's out. If the ball hits the corner, forget about any spin thereafter, it's still hitting both in bounds and out of bounds simultaneously. Wouldn't that be the same as a ball that touches a piece of the boundary line and in bounds simultaneously?

[Rich]

I'm keeping it in until I have to call it out.

[MD Longhorn]

Y'all are mistaken when you say the only way a ball can rebound toward the end line is if it hit the back. The ball is round. Did we forget that?

Go stand directly on the side of the backboard. Throw the ball at the side such that it hits the side of the backboard on the corner nearest out of bounds. Watch it bounce toward the end line ... because the ball is round.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Y'all are mistaken when you say the only way a ball can rebound toward the end line is if it hit the back. The ball is round. Did we forget that?

Go stand directly on the side of the backboard. Throw the ball at the side such that it hits the side of the backboard on the corner nearest out of bounds. Watch it bounce toward the end line ... because the ball is round.

That isn't the OP. In the OP, the player was closer to the end-line. That's when using the angle the ball rebounds comes into play.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

That isn't the OP. In the OP, the player was closer to the end-line. That's when using the angle the ball rebounds comes into play.

I get that, but I was making the point that the ball going toward the end line is meaningless. The ball could rebound toward the end line from almost any angle without striking the back of the backboard.

The only "proof" it hit the back, based on angle alone, would be if it went toward the center of the base of the backboard after coming from outside the edge of the backboard.

Better... unless you KNOW it hit the back, it didn't hit the back.

[just another ref]

Think of the ball as a globe. The equator has to hit squarely on the side of the board for it to bounce straight back. As you get further from the center, the angle of the rebound will increase. If the Arctic circle is where the contact occurs, the angle can be quite dramatic. So does this contact on the side cause the ball to wrap around and simultaneously/immediately afterward contact the back? When in doubt (which will be almost all the time in this case) I will assume it did not.