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Old Mon Feb 09, 2015, 09:36pm
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Duke/Fla St (Video)

Basket by Fla St with 11.9 left. Sure looked like a travel to me, real time and replayed, but what else is new?
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Old Mon Feb 09, 2015, 10:55pm
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It seems that there is a trend on this board lately of dissecting plays in slo-mo to detect small traveling violations. This focus seems to miss the bigger picture involved in judging contact between large men attacking the basket.

I know that when I officiate traveling is down the list of items that I'm looking for. It is akin to 3-seconds in the lane. I'm going to get the obvious violations when it becomes the most important aspect of the play, but when other elements are primary, I'm not even considering some of these travels.
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Old Mon Feb 09, 2015, 11:46pm
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Basket by Fla St with 11.9 left. Sure looked like a travel to me, real time and replayed, but what else is new?
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It seems that there is a trend on this board lately of dissecting plays in slo-mo to detect small traveling violations. This focus seems to miss the bigger picture involved in judging contact between large men attacking the basket.

I know that when I officiate traveling is down the list of items that I'm looking for. It is akin to 3-seconds in the lane. I'm going to get the obvious violations when it becomes the most important aspect of the play, but when other elements are primary, I'm not even considering some of these travels.
Perhaps it's a trend because these "small" uncalled violations are more and more prevalent. This was definitely the most important aspect of the play. Certain things can make a travel more obvious. He got all the way from here to here after the dribble ended with a change of direction in the middle.
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Old Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:58am
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Perhaps it's a trend because these "small" uncalled violations are more and more prevalent. This was definitely the most important aspect of the play. Certain things can make a travel more obvious. He got all the way from here to here after the dribble ended with a change of direction in the middle.
Well maybe you have just started watching basketball, but I see as many missed travels or improperly called travels as I ever have. We just have better video and YouTube has taken off. YouTube is only 10 years old.

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Old Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:42am
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What about the blocking foul on Duke along the sideline in the last few minutes of the game. Seemed the defender had LGP and was just backpedaling. However I only seen it once in my sleepy state so I would like another look at it.
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Old Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:43am
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What about the blocking foul on Duke along the sideline in the last few minutes of the game. Seemed the defender had LGP and was just backpedaling. However I only seen it once in my sleepy state so I would like another look at it.
You realize the video gurus need a time in order to easily find the play in question?
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Old Sun Feb 15, 2015, 10:23am
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It seems that there is a trend on this board lately of dissecting plays in slo-mo to detect small traveling violations. This focus seems to miss the bigger picture involved in judging contact between large men attacking the basket.

I know that when I officiate traveling is down the list of items that I'm looking for. It is akin to 3-seconds in the lane. I'm going to get the obvious violations when it becomes the most important aspect of the play, but when other elements are primary, I'm not even considering some of these travels.
I do not nitpick traveling violations, but pinning a foul on a player on contact that is neither intentional or flagrant aftera blatant travel isn't right, either.

One recent thread involved a pump fake, including a subsequent pickup and plant of a pivot foot, followed by the defender landing on the player. I believe you advocating that the foul was most important, but I still contend that contact happened with what was a dead ball. And even though the T came a long way, they got the play right as a crew. What makes a common foul more important than a correctly call travel?
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