Lane Violation (Video)

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Definitely on the sideline. The red player is in first and his step is clearly outside the FT semicircle. White then enters and he too is wide of the semicircle.

The real question is what to do if one is inside and one violator is outside or the first is a defender in a marked lane space and the second is a player outside the 3pt area and the "rocket ship". I believe that I have a good answer, but have never seen it detailed anywhere.

Correct on the location....it is certainly the sideline.

The location of the throw for simultaneous violations is determined by which team has the arrow. The spot will be at the spot nearest the violation committed by the team without the arrow.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Correct on the location....it is certainly the sideline.

The location of the throw for simultaneous violations is determined by which team has the arrow. The spot will be at the spot nearest the violation committed by the team without the arrow.

Correct -- there's a case play or interp (possibly dealing with fouls) on this.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The location of the throw for simultaneous violations is determined by which team has the arrow. The spot will be at the spot nearest the violation committed by the team without the arrow.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Correct -- there's a case play or interp (possibly dealing with fouls) on this.

Anyone know where to find this interpretation/caseplay? I'm not sure I ever remember reading this one.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Anyone know where to find this interpretation/caseplay? I'm not sure I ever remember reading this one.

The quickest one I can find is from 2002 (I think), so the end-ruling has changed (It's POI, not AP), but the concept exists:

SITUATION 12: B1 fouls A1 near the division line. At approximately the same time, A2 fouls B2 in the lane near Team A's basket. The alternating-possession arrow is pointed toward Team A. RULING: This is a simultaneous personal foul. B1 and A2 are charged with personal fouls. The ball shall be put back in play with an alternating-possession throw-in for Team A on the sideline nearest B1's foul. COMMENT: Since the fouls occurred at two different locations on the floor, the spot for the throw-in is determined by the foul of the team not entitled to the alternating-possession throw-in. Example: Team A has the arrow; throw-in administered at the spot closest to Team B's foul. (4-19-9; 6-3-3g)

[referee99]

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The quickest one I can find is from 2002 (I think), so the end-ruling has changed (It's POI, not AP), but the concept exists:

SITUATION 12: B1 fouls A1 near the division line. At approximately the same time, A2 fouls B2 in the lane near Team A's basket. The alternating-possession arrow is pointed toward Team A. RULING: This is a simultaneous personal foul. B1 and A2 are charged with personal fouls. The ball shall be put back in play with an alternating-possession throw-in for Team A on the sideline nearest B1's foul. COMMENT: Since the fouls occurred at two different locations on the floor, the spot for the throw-in is determined by the foul of the team not entitled to the alternating-possession throw-in. Example: Team A has the arrow; throw-in administered at the spot closest to Team B's foul. (4-19-9; 6-3-3g)

Thanks Bob. The original scenario of the FT violation is probably one of those extremely rare cases, but I'll file this one away in the old noggin!

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Correct on the location....it is certainly the sideline.

The location of the throw for simultaneous violations is determined by which team has the arrow. The spot will be at the spot nearest the violation committed by the team without the arrow.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Correct -- there's a case play or interp (possibly dealing with fouls) on this.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The quickest one I can find is from 2002 (I think), so the end-ruling has changed (It's POI, not AP), but the concept exists:

SITUATION 12: B1 fouls A1 near the division line. At approximately the same time, A2 fouls B2 in the lane near Team A's basket. The alternating-possession arrow is pointed toward Team A. RULING: This is a simultaneous personal foul. B1 and A2 are charged with personal fouls. The ball shall be put back in play with an alternating-possession throw-in for Team A on the sideline nearest B1's foul. COMMENT: Since the fouls occurred at two different locations on the floor, the spot for the throw-in is determined by the foul of the team not entitled to the alternating-possession throw-in. Example: Team A has the arrow; throw-in administered at the spot closest to Team B's foul. (4-19-9; 6-3-3g)

These guys are sharp! That is exactly the ruling and citation that I had in mind when making my earlier post.