UNC/Boston College backcourt violation (Video)

[bballref3966]

12:37 first half ACC Network.

[APG]

[SC Official]

No control established inbounds. Great job by the lead to come in and get it right.

(If only the NFHS would copy the NCAA wording on backcourt violations.)

[crosscountry55]

Took some guts for the lead to come up and provide that info. Trail was contrite and realized pretty quickly that he made a mistake. A little embarrassing, but hey, we all have brain farts from time to time. Great crew help, inadvertent whistle, BC gets the ball, and we play on. Well done.

[bob jenkins]

It doesn't look like they inbounded it at the correct spot after the IW.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It doesn't look like they inbounded it at the correct spot after the IW.

I disagree. They started to do it table side, but then they threw it across the court and administered it on the sideline closest to where the ball was when the IW occurred.

[bob jenkins]

Yes -- but at about :43 of the tape, the inbounder is adjacent to the FC of white -- when the IW was in the BC of white.

[Adam]

Oops. I feel a lot better now about doing what the lead does here in a freshman girls game a few years ago.

[JRutledge]

I am perplexed as to how this was missed.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am perplexed as to how this was missed.

Peace

Momentary brain fart.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am perplexed as to how this was missed.

Peace

Not to justify it, but I think a lot of the times a player's reaction to something subconsciously influences the official. I'm certain the trail knows the rules, and they did get it right in the end, but seeing the kid pause like that, probably just clouded the judgment a little.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Not to justify it, but I think a lot of the times a player's reaction to something subconsciously influences the official. I'm certain the trail knows the rules, and they did get it right in the end, but seeing the kid pause like that, probably just clouded the judgment a little.

I am sorry, but this should not be missed. I get the brain fart could happen, but this is a very basic rule and interpretation. This is not even the NF interpretation which creates some confusion. This rule has not been any different in the entire 20 years of my career at any level including the NCAA level. How does someone not know this at that level? It is one thing if we have a judgment, but a rule to be missed like this is unacceptable. This tells me that guys at this level potentially are not in their rulebooks or never got the rule before they got to this level. But I would be so terrified to miss a rule I read them all the time to try to understand even unusual situations. This was so basic and can happen multiple times a game, this should never be missed unless you are just "getting by" in your rules knowledge. The kid's reaction should not have influenced anything. Kids try to save the ball in the BC after a rebound, why would I care what a kid thinks the rule is?

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am perplexed as to how this was missed.

Peace

You'd be amazed at home many officials don't really know the rules. I've had to correct this on more than one occasion, even with college officials, where they just do not know the rule.

Luckily, those partners know to trust me when I tell them what the rule is.

Even had a question come of Friday night at the watering hole after games relating to backcourt violations. There were a few that didn't believe me. I offered to put $100 down to back up my point...even increased it to $1000. Unfortunately, no one would bite. I should have given some good odds. I could have made it a very profitable night.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You'd be amazed at home many officials don't really know the rules. I've had to correct this on more than one occasion, even with college officials, where they just do not know the rule.

Luckily, those partners know to trust me when I tell them what the rule is.

Actually I am not surprised at all. I have dealt with many officials over the years that give explanations for their plays they call and it has nothing to do with the rules.

I had a college game this year where an official justified a call that I made by saying something that was not apart of the rule. And I might have missed the call but did not call the play for the reason my partner thought I called the play for. I just shook my head and went on about my way. It would have been too frustrating to even broach the subject any further.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Even had a question come of Friday night at the watering hole after games relating to backcourt violations. There were a few that didn't believe me. I offered to put $100 down to back up my point...even increased it to $1000. Unfortunately, no one would bite. I should have given some good odds. I could have made it a very profitable night.

I had an individual try to argue with me over a uniform rule. I even went to our head person with an email and he still claims I was not right based on the bet. So it is often very disappointing what people do not know.

Peace

[j51969]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You'd be amazed at home many officials don't really know the rules. I've had to correct this on more than one occasion, even with college officials, where they just do not know the rule.

Luckily, those partners know to trust me when I tell them what the rule is.

Even had a question come of Friday night at the watering hole after games relating to backcourt violations. There were a few that didn't believe me. I offered to put $100 down to back up my point...even increased it to $1000. Unfortunately, no one would bite. I should have given some good odds. I could have made it a very profitable night.

+1

Many get that leg up with; great appearance, strong mechanics, fitness, ability to handle pressure and other strong personalities, confidence, and personal relationships (networking). There are a lot of officials that have similar abilities, and these are some of the things that can separate you from the herd. Rules knowledge aside I believe at least most D1 or higher officials possess many if not all of these intangibles.