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Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 07:08pm
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NCAA-W: Louisville at Duke (Video)

I would like a video of the loose ball scramble starting at 18:40 of the first half. That should have been a foul by the Louisville player for diving on top of a prone Duke player in order to recover a loose ball on the floor at the 18:37 mark of the first half.

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Held ball looks good to me.

I certainly don't have a foul on the player that dove for the ball. She had the ball and the other person dove at her legs while trying to knock the ball free. I think she tripped over the other person more than jumped on her.
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Old Fri Feb 06, 2015, 08:58am
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Held ball looks good to me.

I certainly don't have a foul on the player that dove for the ball. She had the ball and the other person dove at her legs while trying to knock the ball free. I think she tripped over the other person more than jumped on them.
I might get a blocking foul on white.
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Old Fri Feb 06, 2015, 10:52am
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At 18:36 of the game clock Red dove on top of White to gain control of the ball. That is the contact I am concerned about. That has to be a foul on Red.

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At 18:36 of the game clock Red dove on top of White to gain control of the ball. That is the contact I am concerned about. That has to be a foul on Red.

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Old Fri Feb 06, 2015, 11:31am
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Nope!

So you are saying it is okay for R1 to jump on top of W1 and lay on top of W1 in order to gain control of a loose ball?

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Old Fri Feb 06, 2015, 11:38am
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So you are saying it is okay for R1 to jump on top of W1 and lay on top of W1 in order to gain control of a loose ball?

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No what I am saying is that isn't what happened on the play. In the video I am watching, white dives into the legs of red, causing red to fall over. I am calling a foul on white on that play.
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No what I am saying is that isn't what happened on the play. In the video I am watching, white dives into the legs of red, causing red to fall over. I am calling a foul on white on that play.

Go back to the tape and look at the play at 18:36 of the game clock. The video starts around 18:40 of the game clock and I don't care about that action. Look at the action at 18:36 of the game clock.

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Go back to the tape and look at the play at 18:36 of the game clock. The video starts around 18:40 of the game clock and I don't care about that action. Look at the action at 18:36 of the game clock.

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Red didn't *dive* on white at 18:36. White undercut red, causing red to trip at 18:37 and to land on white at 18:36.
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Red didn't *dive* on white at 18:36. White undercut red, causing red to trip at 18:37 and to land on white at 18:36.
That is how I see it.
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I have this as incidental contact followed by a held ball. I think the closest thing to a foul here is a TC foul on White #23, but I think all contact here is incidental.
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"It's a loose ball, you can't have a foul!" Can't count the number of times I've heard this on two hands.
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"It's a loose ball, you can't have a foul!" Can't count the number of times I've heard this on two hands.
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So you are saying it is okay for R1 to jump on top of W1 and lay on top of W1 in order to gain control of a loose ball?

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Mark, contextually, how and why did R1 end up on top of W1? It seems that the consensus is that W1's contact on R1 caused R1 to end up on top of W1.
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