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JRutledge Sun Feb 01, 2015 02:39pm

Michigan at MSU (Video)
 
8:33 in the second half. There is an off-ball foul called on MSU and a review for a slap in the head.

Peace

Raymond Sun Feb 01, 2015 03:43pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 953203)
8:33 in the second half. There is an off-ball foul called on MSU and a review for a slap in the head.

Peace

Isn't that how Wolverines and Spartans greet each other?

AremRed Sun Feb 01, 2015 04:02pm

I think the Lamont Simpson travel before a block/charge play at 13:09 first half and the Steretore rebounding foul at 10:31 first half would be good teaching points.

APG Fri Feb 06, 2015 01:05am

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Blindolbat Fri Feb 06, 2015 01:18am

All 3 look good to me. Good job.

Camron Rust Fri Feb 06, 2015 03:22am

#1 could have been a travel or a charge. Both happened pretty much at the same time.

#2 was backwards. The white player was holding onto the blue player's arm and then put on a show to sucker the official into calling the foul. He definitely didn't get pushed anything like he made it look.

#3. Looks good. He flung his arm back and smacked the defender on the head with the backside of his arm.

Remington Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:10am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 953840)
#1 could have been a travel or a charge. Both happened pretty much at the same time.

#2 was backwards. The white player was holding onto the blue player's arm and then put on a show to sucker the official into calling the foul. He definitely didn't get pushed anything like he made it look.

#3. Looks good. He flung his arm back and smacked the defender on the head with the backside of his arm.

Camron ~ On #2, I have the defensive player dislodging throughout the block-out and a final shove to solidify the foul call. Do you not feel the dislodging during the block-out is not enough displacement for a foul? Honest question.

Rob1968 Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:22am

#1 not a travel. C was straight-lined throughout the play, and the ball-handler got the ball out to start his dribble as his left foot came down.

Camron Rust Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:12pm

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Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 953876)
#1 not a travel. C was straight-lined throughout the play, and the ball-handler got the ball out to start his dribble as his left foot came down.

That is fine, but his right foot was the pivot foot (established when he picked up the ball after the single dribble) and it was lifted and replanted right at the same time as the contact.

Camron Rust Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:17pm

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Originally Posted by Remington (Post 953863)
Camron ~ On #2, I have the defensive player dislodging throughout the block-out and a final shove to solidify the foul call. Do you not feel the dislodging during the block-out is not enough displacement for a foul? Honest question.

I don't. The offensive player (in white) was giving up that space. He got caught in a poor position and knew it. I think he was playing for the foul and there was no final shove. The player faked it to get the foul call.The fact that he was holding the defender's arm against him was, in my opinion, on purpose so he could fake the shove.

Rob1968 Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:26pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 953888)
That is fine, but his right foot was the pivot foot (established when he picked up the ball after the single dribble) and it was lifted and replanted right at the same time as the contact.

The cadence of his whistle seemed to corelate with the landing and start of the dribble. When I slowed it down, and looked for foot movement at the time of the contact, I saw what you stated. Thanks.

Raymond Fri Feb 06, 2015 01:50pm

1) If not a travel, it would have been a PC foul, so MSU comes out ahead on that call.

2) At first it was a stand-off, but the very last frame of the play shows the Michigan player grab the MSU player to prevent him from jumping.

3) Good review, and I'm assuming it remained as a regular ole TC foul.

APG Fri Feb 06, 2015 01:56pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 953926)
1)

3) Good review, and I'm assuming it remained as a regular ole TC foul.

There was no upgrade on the foul call.

fullor30 Fri Feb 06, 2015 02:11pm

1) easy travel call

2) agree with Camron, white got away with one

3) Good call.....was C ball watching? Lead comes across paint for this one, but had to be made.


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