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Jay Bilas: "Worst call in history of basketball" (OSU/Maryland) [VIDEO]
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12250361&ex_cid=espnFB
It's a pretty bad call. But Bilas' reaction is hyperbolic and hilarious to me. APG embedded clip of play: <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/oe1IWiV_Omw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
Anytime, anyone goes right to "best/worst (X) ever" (and it's happening more frequently), take them with the entire salt mine.
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Can somebody please clip this up so we can review this better?
Peace |
A douchebag says what?
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EDIT: Whoops |
egads
Just try to imagine Jay B in the stands during a game you ref. |
Bad positioning on Wymer's part. This is why you START at the FTLE guys; if you are above it like the C in this play you have worse rebounding angles.
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When I read the thread title, I thought Bilas was at MY game last night.
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If you can't see between the players, or don't see clear displacement, don't blow your whistle.
I'm sure he wants it back. |
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The replay looking from above shows space between the two players involved at the moment of the rebound. That would be a tough look for the C. The contact only occurs at the end of the play. The calling official went with what he saw. Don't we all - correct or incorrect. |
Didn't Wymer work the championship game last year?
Good officials miss calls. Yawn. |
Actually, the "worst call in the history of basketball" was the call to Bilas' house asking him to work this game. :rolleyes:
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I've seen much worse misses.
Bilas is a self-absorbed a** clown. He kicks rules every night. I called him out on Twitter a while back and he stuck to his guns on a rule when he was clearly wrong. |
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He calls it "over the back". That right there makes the rest of his diatribe meaningless.
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Guys I'm a nube to officiating, and may be off base here or overthinking the eleventy bjillion rules I'm trying to get familiar with. But I've watched this video several times and I'm not agreeing with the bad call....
It seems to me the defensive player has a right to his vertical plane going for the rebound, and he established his position (and his plane) before Thompson goes for the tip-in. Thompson comes into that plane for the tip, making him an airborne shooter. Thompson's action causes obvious contact with his left side and left arm, giving a disadvantage to the rebounder and an advantage to the airborne shooter. So why wouldn't this be considered a player control foul against Thompson? Thanks for any response. Just trying to learn here. Rich |
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Welcome Nube. In order for it to be a player control foul, player control is needed. In this instance,there is none. IF there was a foul ( I'm not seeing it, no real displacement or disadvantage) in this case it would likely be a push as the foul happened before the offensive player gathered and gained control. |
Thanks Constable.
What I saw was a good deal of contact with Thompson's left arm and left side against the defender/rebounder while both were airborne during/immediately after the put back. It appears to be sufficient to move the defender's head and displace him. Maybe I'm looking at it wrong. But I get what you are saying regarding the player control part. I mistakenly thought that the airborne shooter was considered to be in control during a put back. Rich |
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That said, contact is generally considered incidental (and not a foul) if it doesn't hinder the opponent from doing what he's trying to do. In this case, I don't see the defender doing much. This is what happens when you wait for the ball. The displacement is minimal, and at this level rarely gets called. I think this is a missed call, but I'm not even sure I'd classify it as a bad miss for the reasons you wrote here. |
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Easy one, put it in your bag of tricks, but near the top as so many things we are called on to judge are predicated on player control. Same for team control. Know when it starts and what circumstances cause it to end. Memorize the 20 Rules fundamentals found on page 70 something! |
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Some of the feedback I get from coaches I know is that they feel too many refs act/feel like they are above criticism. Now I take this with a grain of salt considering the source and think its misguided but responses like this give some validity to that sentiment IMO. I think its an overly defensive position to take. And speaking of what is likely an unpopular opinion on this forum, I actually like Bilas. I don't agree with everything he says, particularly on officiating, but I think he is one of the more thoughtful sports analysts out there and do agree with a lot of what he says. Hyperbole aside, this is a pretty bad miss. Can happen to the best of us but doesn't negate that this was a whistle that he likely wishes he had back and can be a lesson on positioning and angles on rebounding action. |
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