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HokiePaul Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:53am

Question on this ... You are supposed to stay with a matchup if you have started a closely guarded count. I always assumed that this include marking a shot attempt as your partner may be looking elsewhere. But maybe that is a bad assumption. If you continue a count out of your primary, would any of you mark a 3 pt attempt or do you assume that the matchup (and marking of a 3 pt attempt) gets passed off as soon as the dribble ends?

bob jenkins Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:58am

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Originally Posted by HokiePaul (Post 952721)
Question on this ... You are supposed to stay with a matchup if you have started a closely guarded count. I always assumed that this include marking a shot attempt as your partner may be looking elsewhere. But maybe that is a bad assumption. If you continue a count out of your primary, would any of you mark a 3 pt attempt or do you assume that the matchup (and marking of a 3 pt attempt) gets passed off as soon as the dribble ends?

I'd (try to) know where my partner was looking and use that to determine it. And, if we both start to mark it, then I'd drop if it was clearly in my P's area.

frezer11 Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:58pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 952711)
If it's in the gray area between coverages, I get it. Most of us can mark a 3-pointer without actually staring at the shooter. But the crew needs to have some way of saying to each other, "I got the shooter....go do something else."

"...Go do something else." Absolute Quality!!! Ha!

RedKillian Thu Jan 29, 2015 05:43pm

I usually pre-game on a double mark by the C and T to let the T take the shooter but the C leaves his arm up and does not stay with the shooter but helps the L with rebounding action. A dropped 3 pt mark can lead to confusion. Was it really a 3 or not? Why did he drop his mark?

Freddy Thu Jan 29, 2015 08:09pm

Not to beat an expired equine, but if I were the AD hosting this game, I'd say to myself, "Why pay for three officials? I could pay for just two and still have too many eyes on the ball!"

Glad They Got This Covered

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Any assigning pool or association that tolerates ballwatching like this ought not complain if their stakeholders abandon 3-person in favor of 2. It's their own flippin' fault.

Freddy Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:03pm

I've Got a Five...What You Got?
 
And here's the "Closely Guarded/Not"corollary to the topic at hand:

Battling Signals -- Who's Ballwatchin' Here?

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Embarrassing. Ouch.

Raymond Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:20pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 952704)
Here's the problem with 2 arms in the air marking a 3:

Are both officials taking that jump-shooter back to the floor?

An arm up tells me that official is responsible for the shooter up and down and I can focus on rebounding action. If they're both going up, who's watching rebounding? The L?

If both go up, the C should drop it and readjust his focus. Pregame this.

I always drop if a partner is marking a three at the same time I am.

Rich Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:48am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 952814)
I always drop if a partner is marking a three at the same time I am.

Sometimes that's the most practical solution.


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