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paulsonj72 Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:59pm

Old TV Broadcast of MN State Tourney GAme
 
Interesting link here as this a 1979 Minnesota Boys State Tourney game. What rule differences do you notice(besides jump balls) and mechanics used as compared to today(2 man). Also when did HS rules go from the lane on a free throw hitting the rim to release(the 1st time). Also I'm not sure why there was a 3 point line on the floor. The NBA didn't have it at the time and of course neither did high school or college. Only thing I can think off is that the building bought a floor and hosted some ABA exhibition games when it 1st opened and they never got rid of it. Here is the said link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xStAYJGi118

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/xStAYJGi118" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

APG Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:17pm

The NBA added the 3 point line for the 79-80 season

Rich Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:17pm

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Originally Posted by paulsonj72 (Post 952330)
Interesting link here as this a 1979 Minnesota Boys State Tourney game. What rule differences do you notice(besides jump balls) and mechanics used as compared to today(2 man). Also when did HS rules go from the lane on a free throw hitting the rim to release(the 1st time). Also I'm not sure why there was a 3 point line on the floor. The NBA didn't have it at the time and of course neither did high school or college. Only thing I can think off is that the building bought a floor and hosted some ABA exhibition games when it 1st opened and they never got rid of it. Here is the said link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xStAYJGi118

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/xStAYJGi118" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The NBA didn't exist in Minnesota from when the Lakers left until the Timberwolves started play in 1989.

The NBA 3 started in 1979-80.

Perhaps they played an exhibition game and tested out the 3-pointer then. Or they left the line from when the Muskies played there 11 years earlier.

paulsonj72 Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:44pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 952334)
The NBA didn't exist in Minnesota from when the Lakers left until the Timberwolves started play in 1989.

The NBA 3 started in 1979-80.

Perhaps they played an exhibition game and tested out the 3-pointer then. Or they left the line from when the Muskies played there 11 years earlier.

ABA teams played at the Met Center in Bloomington. The St. Paul Civic Center didn't open until January 1, 1973 and was actually built for the Minnesota Fighting Saints of the old WHA. I'm guessing(and thats all it is because I am too young to remember) that they may have hosted an ABA exhibition game or two in the seasons after it opened to have the floor with the three point line. Also was the ABA 3 point distance the distance the NBA eventually adopted

paulsonj72 Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:52pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 952333)
The NBA added the 3 point line for the 79-80 season

One thing also. This game(and tournament ) was played in March of 1979 the season before the NBA added the 3 point line. March 8, 1979 to be exact. :)

Lcubed48 Tue Jan 27, 2015 09:18am

The posting of this video serves as a reminder of my age/experience. :) My first year of officiating was in the 1980-81 season.

Where to start? There are differences all over the place - bird dogging, fouler raises hand, T administers the FT, L pinches the paint near the end line, collared shirts, coaches sit, long switches, and offenses that work for the open mid-range jump shot.

Ahh, I remember when! :D

Rich Tue Jan 27, 2015 09:28am

A style of play that was much easier to officiate with 2 people, certainly.

Lcubed48 Tue Jan 27, 2015 09:57am

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Originally Posted by rich (Post 952381)
a style of play that was much easier to officiate with 2 people, certainly.

+1

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:00am

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Originally Posted by paulsonj72 (Post 952330)
Interesting link here as this a 1979 Minnesota Boys State Tourney game. What rule differences do you notice(besides jump balls) and mechanics used as compared to today(2 man). Also when did HS rules go from the lane on a free throw hitting the rim to release(the 1st time). Also I'm not sure why there was a 3 point line on the floor. The NBA didn't have it at the time and of course neither did high school or college. Only thing I can think off is that the building bought a floor and hosted some ABA exhibition games when it 1st opened and they never got rid of it. Here is the said link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xStAYJGi118

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/xStAYJGi118" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


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paulsonj72 Tue Jan 27, 2015 05:23pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 952381)
A style of play that was much easier to officiate with 2 people, certainly.

There is another game on youtube from 1997 in MN that ended 117-113 in OT and is considered the greatest game in MN state tourney history. Losing team took 87 shots in a 36 Minute game(with OT). And it was worked as a two man crew. That had to be fun.

AremRed Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:00am

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Originally Posted by paulsonj72 (Post 952482)
There is another game on youtube from 1997 in MN that ended 117-113 in OT and is considered the greatest game in MN state tourney history. Losing team took 87 shots in a 36 Minute game(with OT). And it was worked as a two man crew. That had to be fun.

If the ball is going in the hoop any game can be fun!

paulsonj72 Wed Jan 28, 2015 01:04am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 952525)
If the ball is going in the hoop any game can be fun!

Total number of FG attempts in Game both teams-162
Made FG Both Teams-94
3PT Attempts Both Teams-47
3PT Makes Both Team-20
FT Attempts Both Teams-47
FT Made Both Teams-22(only below average numbers)
Total Fouls Both Teams-43

All in all a shootout done with a 2 man crew.

paulsonj72 Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 952334)
The NBA didn't exist in Minnesota from when the Lakers left until the Timberwolves started play in 1989.

The NBA 3 started in 1979-80.

Perhaps they played an exhibition game and tested out the 3-pointer then. Or they left the line from when the Muskies played there 11 years earlier.

Sorry to bring back an old thread but there is a 1976 Minnesota state tournament game on You Tube now and they said they hosted an ABA exhibition game and painted the line on the floor.


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