Shooting foul to end the half

What prevents me from authorizing the team to leave the floor?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by AremRed

What prevents me from authorizing the team to leave the floor?

See Nevada's citation.

Originally Posted by bainsey

See Nevada's citation.

If I as the R authorize the team to leave, wouldn't that be an authorized reason? The NFHS has not given us a list of authorized/unauthorized reasons for leaving the floor so I believe I am free to use my good judgement to determine what is and is not an 'authorized reason'. 2-3.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by AremRed

If I as the R authorize the team to leave, wouldn't that be an authorized reason? The NFHS has not given us a list of authorized/unauthorized reasons for leaving the floor so I believe I am free to use my good judgement to determine what is and is not an 'authorized reason'. 2-3.

see above. thx

Originally Posted by BigCat

see above. thx

You're not getting it guys. This case play clearly implies that leaving the court before the ending action of a quarter is an 'unauthorized reason' but given that the NFHS has not created a list detailing exactly what is and is not an authorized reason to leave the floor, I believe I am free to authorize and unauthorize according to my judgement. In this case I wouldn't mess with it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AremRed

You're not getting it guys. This case play clearly implies that leaving the court before the ending action of a quarter is an 'unauthorized reason' but given that the NFHS has not created a list detailing exactly what is and is not an authorized reason to leave the floor, I believe I am free to authorize and unauthorize according to my judgement. In this case I wouldn't mess with it.

The case play tells you this is not an authorized reason. You don't have the authority to override this any more than you can "decide" A1 going around a screen is an authorized reason.

What are authorized reasons? Letting a team member go to the locker room to tend to an injury or sickness.

"Coach, you and your team need to remain at your bench until the FTs are completed." If he doesn't comply, then we have 4 free throws to shoot while he's in the locker room, and he'll come back to a seat belt.

[BillyMac]

10-5-5: The head coach shall not permit team members to leave the bench
area and/or playing court for an unauthorized reason.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Adam

"Coach, you and your team need to remain at your bench until the FTs are completed." If he doesn't comply, then we have 4 free throws to shoot while he's in the locker room, and he'll come back to a seat belt.

Actually, if we had wanted to stick it to him, we would have had 5 FTs to shoot since it was a 3 point try that the foul occurred on.

Thanks for the education on the rule here. I was pretty sure they were supposed to stay, but wasn't going to make a big deal of it as there was really no harm done in allowing them to leave, other then the couple of seconds it took them to vacate the bench before we shot the free throws.

And if my partner told a team they could leave, I'm certainly not going to stick a coach who was told it was OK to go.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

You're not getting it guys. This case play clearly implies that leaving the court before the ending action of a quarter is an 'unauthorized reason' but given that the NFHS has not created a list detailing exactly what is and is not an authorized reason to leave the floor, I believe I am free to authorize and unauthorize according to my judgement. In this case I wouldn't mess with it.

Yes, we are.

As I told someone else, while I respect your beliefs, they are not relevant here.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by AremRed

You're not getting it guys. This case play clearly implies that leaving the court before the ending action of a quarter is an 'unauthorized reason' but given that the NFHS has not created a list detailing exactly what is and is not an authorized reason to leave the floor, I believe I am free to authorize and unauthorize according to my judgement. In this case I wouldn't mess with it.

I think I see what your point is here, but not sure. While I disagree with you that we have the authority to allow a team to leave or not, in the OP, I don't think I'd have a T. The reason being is that if my partner had mistakenly allowed the coach to take his team to the locker room, I'm not going to give them a tech when they were told they could. I think the best way to handle this is to have an official stop them and basically not allow them to leave. If they ignore the warning, then they dig their own grave, but if you tell them they can? Not a good Tech to give, especially for an act that has no real bearing on the game.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by AremRed

What prevents me from authorizing the team to leave the floor?

You have Nevada's play. Also, if you look at Rule 10 you can see that the rules dont authorize you to authorize them to leave. A team has to occupy bench it is assigned. Players are required to sit etc when game going on. The half isnt over until the free throws are shot. They give the T to the coach rather than penalize each player.. These are rules just like the rule where player gets 5 fouls. I cant authorize or say he gets a 6th foul. That is an extreme example, but these other things are rules too.

I think the penalty is harsh. Not a fan of it. I make sure teams stay at bench so i dont have to call it. thx

[LeeBallanfant]

Originally Posted by AremRed

What prevents me from authorizing the team to leave the floor?

A good reason would be that if Team A was assessed a TF before shots were completed, you would have nobody from Team B to shoot them.

[Rich]

You have as much right to authorize the teams to leave in this situation as you do to award 4 points for a half-court basket.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Rich

You have as much right to authorize the teams to leave in this situation as you do to award 4 points for a half-court basket.

Haha! One of my favorite quotes from a player I didn't care much for, once when asked why Antoine Walker took so many 3's, his response was, "Because they don't have a 4-point shot..."

[BlueDevilRef]

Originally Posted by Rich

You have as much right to authorize the teams to leave in this situation as you do to award 4 points for a half-court basket.

A half court shot is worth 4 points? Duly noted


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