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Old Sat Jan 24, 2015, 05:02pm
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TCU & West Virg. (Video)

Last 27 seconds of OT In TCU & West Virginia..ESPN U

1) Double whistle..Travel vs Foul

2) End of game Foul by TCU (.5 seconds or so)

Couple of things worthy of chatting about...

1) The calls themselves

2) Crew Communication

Looks like TCU coach had to be restrained by Asst. as he was heading toward the officials at the end of the game...

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Old Sat Jan 24, 2015, 05:22pm
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I was just looking at some TCU comments on a site and yeah some questionable calls but they made TOs near the end and shot poorly at the FT line.

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Old Sun Jan 25, 2015, 11:31am
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Last 27 seconds of OT In TCU & West Virginia..ESPN U

1) Double whistle..Travel vs Foul

2) End of game Foul by TCU (.5 seconds or so)

Couple of things worthy of chatting about...

1) The calls themselves

2) Crew Communication
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Old Sun Jan 25, 2015, 11:55am
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Play 1: Travel

Play 2: Foul with .9 on clock.
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Old Sun Jan 25, 2015, 01:34pm
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1. I don't see a travel. His left foot was the pivot and he pivoted several times but I don't see that it ever came up before he released the dribble. Even if it did, I think the foul happened first.

2. Good call.
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1. Tough call. I see the travel because I see his pivot come up before he releases the dribble. However, I think he also gets fouled before the dribble is released.

2. Good call.
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The TCU coach chased after one of the officials after time expired. I would like to see him be fined for that.
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1. I have a travel.

2. I have a foul on the shot.

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Old Sun Jan 25, 2015, 05:57pm
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1. Travel. I suppose this is what they went with given that the next clip started with the end of a WVU possession a few seconds later? If so, that was the right decision, mainly because the T was far-reaching (not sure why) into an area that the C was staying very well connected to.

2. Foul with 0.9. Excellent call. Reviewing this at the monitor, does the crew go with the moment of contact or the moment the official signals? I assume the contact but I'm not exactly sure how this works.
-----NOTE: If this were an NFHS game, unless an official has definite knowledge by seeing a few ticks fall off after the whistle, these free throws would be shot with the lane cleared. Oh the drama!

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1. I have a traveling violation on Purple #34, but the movement of the pivot foot is pretty slight. Borderline call.

2. I have a personal foul for illegal use of hands committed by Purple #5 on White #2 in the act of shooting. According to replay, the foul occurred with 0.9 seconds left on the clock.
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1) Travel is definite, still don't see a foul. Plus Trail is straight-lined, don't see how he has a whistle.

2) Foul, but the Lead is extremely lackadaisical in his mechanics. His urgency needs to be at the same level as the game.
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2) Foul, but the Lead is extremely lackadaisical in his mechanics. His urgency needs to be at the same level as the game.
That is a big call, you have to act like you saw it to everyone in the gym. He does not even close down on the players.

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1) Travel is definite, still don't see a foul. Plus Trail is straight-lined, don't see how he has a whistle.

2) Foul, but the Lead is extremely lackadaisical in his mechanics. His urgency needs to be at the same level as the game.
Funny how I am more often than not on the side of it being a travel when you and i disagree.

I did see a point where the foot may have come up but I couldn't be certain that the entire foot lifted so I didn't have the travel.
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Funny how I am more often than not on the side of it being a travel when you and i disagree.

I did see a point where the foot may have come up but I couldn't be certain that the entire foot lifted so I didn't have the travel.
I actually have him traveling twice. Right after he catches the ball he slides his left foot, which is then used as his pivot foot; when he makes the 180 spin trying to get out of trouble, both feet come off the ground.

But even taking that out of the equation, I do not see how the Trail can see through the 2 bodies in front of him, and then also through the back of the defender who is guarding A1.
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Man, what a sequence. I think that travel call is a great call. And the foul on the elbow looks pretty clear at .9 seconds.
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