Maryland at Indiana: Undercut on Rebound? (Video)
 

6:50 in the second half, Indiana player appears to undercut the Maryland player.

Replay is not very good, so it might require slow down from the first angle.

Peace

I saw it, thought it was a good call. Yogi kept backing up as the Maryland player jumped straight up. Made Crean look like his family just got murdered.

If I only had better video software to show this play...

IKR

Peace

Maybe APG needs to step in. :)

Him or Jet? ;)

Peace

Don't y'all knock my man jeschmit! :D

Here's the play:

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I respectfully disagree. MD player's arms were moving quite forward and brought the rest of his body with him. Meanwhile I thought the IN player got to the spot first and was entitled to it. Didn't see him backing down too much, certainly not enough that we'd call a displacement foul under normal circumstances.

Close call but I would have gone with a MD pushing foul.

I see the Maryland rebounder going up, towards the basket a bit and creating the contact on the rebound. I see the Indiana kid get landed on and cant help but bend over like he did and probably moved backwards from being off balance and the size of what was on his back. I do NOT have an undercut on the rebound FROM THIS ANGLE.

Neither player is blameless on this one. Tough call, and no matter which is chosen, the other coach will not be happy.

I am not penalizing the bigger player just because he is bigger. I thought not only was it a good call, it was a great call and I feel the official saw the entire play.

Peace

A great call, let's not get carried away with hyperbole.

It is a great call because most would have seen the end result and penalized the bigger player because he was on top of the player inside. Heck how many times do we hear someone say "over the back" or "He had inside position." Heck the announcers said that live. And look at the reaction of the players. And I had to see replay just to determine what happened. It was subtle but it was the right call.

Peace

I agree with you on many of those points, but I still would not characterize a common foul call on a rebound play with 7 minutes to go in a 13 point game a great call.

I am not focusing on the game situation. I am focusing on the action. I just think if it was the first minute of the game or the last minute of the game, many officials would have made the call against the Maryland player, not the Indiana player. And I can say that looking at the plays the NCAA puts out and how often the first contact is often ignored.

Peace

nice call. very close but it looks like the IU player isn't in a good position and makes a bit of contact. What makes it difficult is the Maryland player doesn't go straight up so it is reasonable to expect an "over the top call here". But I can't penalize the Maryland player for that when there isn't a proper screen-out.

Good video.

Looks to me like the player in black jumped forward into the player in white as the player in white moved backward into the player in black. I would personally go with a common foul on the player in black, but I can't fault the official for going the other way. Technically, I think this should be a double foul, but I can't imagine any official (including myself) would ever actually call it like that.

I might let it go as a no-call but I support the foul being called. I just don't see a foul on the Maryland player. I know what you are saying about the double foul and the Maryland player doesn't go straight up but I thought the contact is mainly caused first by the IU player.

Ducky, you no call that and you are going to have problems. I think this is a good call, and it looks like black is jumping forward because right as he leaves his feet his knees get taken out from under him. Very tough call to have to make, but it looked like the right one.

You need a whistle here and a double foul isn't the answer. I have a pushing foul on the Maryland player. He wasn't vertical from the time he went up and stayed that way on the way down.

Undercut
 

I agree that it was an undercut. The contact was significant because the player in white backed into the airborne player in black. The official deserves credit for making the call that was not expected.

Meh. When does any call count as a great call? Tough standard...

Damn

I see contact by the Maryland player first and see him jumping slightly forward creating the first foul. Yogi certainly undercuts him but after he had already been fouled IMO.

My view, the contact from behind is incidental. The undercut, however, is not.

C had a much better angle than we do in the video. He saw the whole play, while we're guessing a bit. I believe the reason that black "jumped forward" is because white backs under him just as black jumps, taking his legs out from under him. The reason I consider it a "great" call is because C wasn't fooled into calling the foul that everyone expected him to call. Instead, he made the correct call.

This is a foul on white all the way. If you think the contact by black is a foul in this case you are expecting to much from any player on rebounding action. Yes contact occurs, but black essentially jumps up and any appearance that he is jumping forward, into white and displacing him, is coming from the fact that white is moving back and undercutting him.

This is a great call because its one officials get wrong very often. To often we penalize the player on the back side simply because he out-jumped, or out positioned the player on the front. Simply being in-between a player and the basket on rebounding action is not the only criteria needed when adjudicating rebounding action.

First time watching this on a full-screen.

Now that I have a better view, I see the Maryland player using his right arm to push Indiana player prior to jumping. When Maryland player is airborne, Indiana player does back up some.

So in the philosophy of "get the first foul", I still have a foul on the Maryland player.

But in real speed, this is a 50/50 play and I'm definitely not going to criticize the call made on the court.

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