player leaves court

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

On a slightly related note: A1 inbounding ball under own basket. Throws the ball to the right. Runs 15' OOB to the left, watching defenders, then turns [still OOB] and runs all the way to the right corner, comes onto the court and receives the ball. Legal?

You have to ask? No.

[bob jenkins]

In practice we give a lot of leeway on this rule, but what you describe seems beyond that.

And, the penalty for failing to enter right away is pretty severe (more so than going OOB to make much the same moves).

See 10.3.2A

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

In practice we give a lot of leeway on this rule, but what you describe seems beyond that.

And, the penalty for failing to enter right away is pretty severe (more so than going OOB to make much the same moves).

See 10.3.2A

I don't see a 10.3.2A. I mean, there's no "A". Sounds like this is a player technical.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I don't see a 10.3.2A. I mean, there's no "A". Sounds like this is a player technical.

You did notice the dots and not the dashes, right?

I checked, and I think it's the right reference.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

You did notice the dots and not the dashes, right?

I checked, and I think it's the right reference.

So you don't mean Rule 10 (Fouls and Penalties), Section 3 (Player Technical), Article 2 ("Purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds"), on page 61? There is nothing after that, indicating that it's anything more than a player technical.

[La Rikardo]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

So you don't mean Rule 10 (Fouls and Penalties), Section 3 (Player Technical), Article 2 ("Purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds"), on page 61? There is nothing after that, indicating that it's anything more than a player technical.

In NFHS, rule references use dashes and case book plays use dots. 10.3.2A refers to a case book play, not to a rule reference.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

In NFHS, rule references use dashes and case book plays use dots. 10.3.2A refers to a case book play, not to a rule reference.

Thank you. You'd think I'd know the difference, but alas... I did not.

BTW, I don't have my case book handy. Meaning it's upstairs in my equipment bag, and I'm too lazy to go get it.

EDIT: Curiousity got the best of me... I went and got it. The end result is that the penalty is a simple player tech, but I didn't find it correctly. Thanks for the help.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I don't see a 10.3.2A. I mean, there's no "A". Sounds like this is a player technical.

It is. For the thrower purposely delaying returning to the court following a throw-in. Whether the thrower stands at the spot for five seconds so as to get forgotten about by defenders, or runs around OOB to get an open look somewhere, the intent is the same: to deceive. That is a player technical.

Sorry, I don't have my book in front of me or I'd clarify the exact reference.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by Smitty

You have to ask? No.

I didn't think it was legal . . . I was coaching; the refs let it go . . . it was clearly (to by biased eyes) a deliberate play and used to set up a shot for the player who literally scored almost all of the team's points.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

I was coaching

Sorry - I assumed you were a ref.

[La Rikardo]

Okay, I can live with not stopping play to give A1 a chance to be removed, but if A1 is simply leaving the court to get himself out of the way of his opponents, I don't see the issue. Same goes for an untied shoe (in both cases, though, I would make it clear to A1 that he may not come back onto the court until the ball is dead and the clock is stopped).