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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 11:46am
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Every game? Really?

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Just like in society, there are some rules that are never enforced. The rule/case books are in need of editing.

Multiple fouls happen every game. It is NEVER called/adjudicated properly. There are countless times when a shooter near the basket gets fouled by more than one person. Only one foul is called. I've even seen plays where an official jokingly says aloud "pick one." Just like Rule 4-24 Article 7 happens EVERY game and is not enforced based on letter of rule. (I sense another topic coming)

Art 7. It is not legal to use the hand and/or forearm to prevent an opponent from attacking the ball during a dribble or when throwing for goal.
Opinion or do you have some statistical evidence to back this up? In 30 years of officiating 50-55 games/year only saw it once.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 12:20pm
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Opinion or do you have some statistical evidence to back this up? In 30 years of officiating 50-55 games/year only saw it once.
"Saw it" or "saw it called"?

I meant that multiple fouls occur all the time, however, I have never seen a multiple foul called/adjudicated.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 01:15pm
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"Saw it" or "saw it called"?

I meant that multiple fouls occur all the time, however, I have never seen a multiple foul called/adjudicated.
Not only have I never seen it called, I've never heard of anyone who has seen it called. Haven't even heard a myth, or seen a fuzzy photo. At least with Sasquatch, we've got some photos.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 02:37pm
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Not only have I never seen it called, I've never heard of anyone who has seen it called. Haven't even heard a myth, or seen a fuzzy photo. At least with Sasquatch, we've got some photos.
After all this, try reading NFHS Case 6.7.4, which involves multiple fouls by opponents at different times (False Multiple Foul). I have seen that occur dozens of time but again, never called and adjudicated as written. We probably have all seen it. A1 driving hard to the hoop, B1 reaches and fouls A1 on the arm, then A1 charges into B2.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 02:44pm
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After all this, try reading NFHS Case 6.7.4, which involves multiple fouls by opponents at different times (False Multiple Foul). I have seen that occur dozens of time but again, never called and adjudicated as written. We probably have all seen it. A1 driving hard to the hoop, B1 reaches and fouls A1 on the arm, then A1 charges into B2.
6.7.4 involves false DOUBLE fouls. opponents involved. multiple fouls involve teammates. yes you have more than one foul but how they are classified depends on who commits them.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 01:06pm
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Opinion or do you have some statistical evidence to back this up? In 30 years of officiating 50-55 games/year only saw it once.
You've only seen multiple players foul the same shooter once in 30 years?

Every game may be a bit extreme, but once in 30 years seems extreme, also.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 02:50pm
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You've only seen multiple players foul the same shooter once in 30 years?

Every game may be a bit extreme, but once in 30 years seems extreme, also.
My guess on this... somewhere between once in 30 years and every single game. I bet I'm right.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 04:52pm
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You've only seen multiple players foul the same shooter once in 30 years?

Every game may be a bit extreme, but once in 30 years seems extreme, also.
Well, Adam, I'll admit I've seen several "maybees?" over the years that were quickly interpreted as one foul. But there was this one that jumped out right in front of me, clearly daring me to call a multiple foul - no question about it.
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